“The 22 Creedmoor Project”

[huntnful]

In the interest of putting this out there for any future deer hunter whos curious about the 22CM, here was my experience:

In 2024, I put away my 6.5CM and decided to use a 22CM for all of deer season. We have managed land permits, and as a group, kill about 200 deer a year.

My 22CM was responsible for 20 whitetail, a mix of does and bucks.

I used factory Hornady ELDM ammo. The 80gr variety.

Almost all 20 were bang flops. Yes, this is highly dependent on bullet placement. High shoulder, punching the blade, and deer just dont move.

All to say, everything about the 22CM is fun. Its flat, its low recoil, and its a deer hammer. I'll have a hard time wanting to poke a deer hide with anything other than this going forward.

Great info man. I absolutely would not hesitate to shoot animals out to a long distance with an 80 ELDM going 3300fps. I don’t personally feel compelled to do it, but I wouldn’t be nervous about it by any means.

I’d imagine it would be about perfect for a high volume, moderate range culling operation!

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Yea I haven’t shot anything with them. Just what I’ve heard from some coyote hunters who have tried them.

I killed two this morning with a 17 grain VMAX at 85 and 130ish yards. One to the neck and one to the lungs.

Coyotes in general can go a long ways when hit. Much further on average than big game animals across the board due to their willingness to survive and “fight” being quite high. That doesn’t mean they aren’t dead somewhere.

A 62 grain ELDVT out a 22CM at any velocity is going to kill coyotes very well.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

In the interest of putting this out there for any future deer hunter whos curious about the 22CM, here was my experience:

In 2024, I put away my 6.5CM and decided to use a 22CM for all of deer season. We have managed land permits, and as a group, kill about 200 deer a year.

My 22CM was responsible for 20 whitetail, a mix of does and bucks.

I used factory Hornady ELDM ammo. The 80gr variety.

Almost all 20 were bang flops. Yes, this is highly dependent on bullet placement. High shoulder, punching the blade, and deer just dont move.

All to say, everything about the 22CM is fun. Its flat, its low recoil, and its a deer hammer. I'll have a hard time wanting to poke a deer hide with anything other than this going forward.

Great info! What was the average impact velocity and impact location on the bang flop deer? Are your "high shoulder" shots potentially a bit higher than you think damaging spine with the wound channel?

I kept track of my 2024 kills with 80 ELDX and 22CM and saw an average of 45ish yards of "distance travelled" until death. With 3 out of 13 big game animals being "bang flops" where I purposely disrupted CNS, and 4 additional kills being in the 20 yards or less distance travelled realm with hear/lung shots.

 

[HighUintas]

What die are you using for this?

 

[huntnful]

What die are you using for this?

I’m using a SAC creedmoor die

 

[OutdoorAg]

Great info! What was the average impact velocity and impact location on the bang flop deer? Are your "high shoulder" shots potentially a bit higher than you think damaging spine with the wound channel?

I kept track of my 2024 kills with 80 ELDX and 22CM and saw an average of 45ish yards of "distance travelled" until death. With 3 out of 13 big game animals being "bang flops" where I purposely disrupted CNS, and 4 additional kills being in the 20 yards or less distance travelled realm with hear/lung shots.

No clue on impact velocity. Not sure on CNS damage. I'm sure that could be factored in, but we field gut, hang, and ship off most of the deer with the hide on, so a postmortem isnt always performed.

I just know than an 80gr ELDM moving at a pretty rapid speed will do its job when it impacts a deer in the shoulder from 50-350 yards away. And likely much, much farther.

 

[justin davis]

I killed two this morning with a 17 grain VMAX at 85 and 130ish yards. One to the neck and one to the lungs.

Coyotes in general can go a long ways when hit. Much further on average than big game animals across the board due to their willingness to survive and “fight” being quite high. That doesn’t mean they aren’t dead somewhere.

A 62 grain ELDVT out a 22CM at any velocity is going to kill coyotes very well.

Oh yea I know it kills them. I’m just regurgitating info that I’ve been told by some guys I know. They tried them and didnt like the results of dogs getting up and running away. They went back to 69 TMK and 75/80 ELDMs.

 

[justin davis]

I’m using a SAC creedmoor die

How do you like the SAC die?

 

[huntnful]

How do you like the SAC die?

They make excellent stuff, and the die is no different. I mostly just like that they have neck/shoulder bushings that ensures a full resize of the neck and not leaving a “donut” at the bottom on the neck.

I don’t use any of the washers and shit for getting shoulder bump perfect though.