Thank you Form I’m now a mk12 believer

[Formidilosus]

Makes me want to try another Shaw and rack my last one up to being a lemon

Ehh. Shaw is very hit or miss. Some a regret, some are good, some are mediocre, and quite a few are dog poo.

 

[Rolltide]

I'm torn between building a 6 ARC in a MK12 format or just picking up a Seekins DMR.

Does anyone here actually have one of the Brouwer built uppers?

 

[Formidilosus]

I'm torn between building a 6 ARC in a MK12 format or just picking up a Seekins DMR.

Does anyone here actually have one of the Brouwer built uppers?

I have used quite a few rifles put together by Brouwer. They are excellent. Seekins isn’t remotely in the running.

 

[The_BuckingSpot]

I'm torn between building a 6 ARC in a MK12 format or just picking up a Seekins DMR.

Does anyone here actually have one of the Brouwer built uppers?

I wish I would have built mine on a shorty barrel.

 

[Howler65]

I wish I would have built mine on a shorty barrel.

The LMT Mars-H 14.5" 6.5Creedmoor rifles look sweet for a shorty as well...$$$ though...

 

[Choupique]

wish I would have built mine on a shorty barrel

Mine is 16" and I wish it was 14.5

These things are rough on the ammo budget. I cant help but put at least 60 rounds through my temu build every time I go shoot. Its just too damned fun.

 

[Howler65]

I have used quite a few rifles put together by Brouwer. They are excellent. Seekins isn’t remotely in the running.

I am really tempted to pick up the Brouwer but just wish there were more suppressor options. Last I spoke with Unknown, they put the mk12 can on hold...maybe Brouwer would build a simple threaded option for an OG? The other options seem to be the 6.5 LMTs and the GFRs...and I don't think an OG 6S/6.5S will fit under either one of those handguards...

 

[Formidilosus]

I am really tempted to pick up the Brouwer but just wish there were more suppressor options. Last I spoke with Unknown, they put the mk12 can on hold...maybe Brouwer would build a simple threaded option for an OG? The other options seem to be the 6.5 LMTs and the GFRs...and I don't think an OG 6S/6.5S will fit under either one of those handguards...

I bet you could ask them and they would leave the brake and collar off.

 

[Choupique]

wish there were more suppressor options

OCM5 is so cool though. I wish all bolt action .223's and 6mms were 16" and profiled for the AE brake and collar.

 

[Howler65]

OCM5 is so cool though. I wish all bolt action .223's and 6mms were 16" and profiled for the AE brake and collar.

It is cool, but can you get them right now? I think an OCM6 is coming out this fall? Anyone have details? I think Allen will bore out the AEM5 to 6 if you special order. FOR has one that fits the AE setup, but have heard it's not great.

 

[Choupique]

Not sure. I was able to find an OCM5 in stock last year locally and an AEM5 was supposedly a ~ 4 week lead time. I didnt ask about an AEM5-30 or OCM6.

At least with the OCM5 though the hype is real. No zero shift as far as I can tell, really quiet, excellent accuracy.

I think the two point mounting system makes a ton of sense and I wish more suppressors mounted that way. It makes a lot more sense than cantilever mounting, especially with a 15+ oz can.

 

[PaulIV]

Looks like the aem5-30 is in stock at a few places, is there any disadvantages to it vs the 6mm variant?

 

[JollyRoger]

I’ve got two Mk12s… a Gen II Mod 0 in 5.56 that is so good.

And my newest from Brouwer. It’s a hammer so far

 

[RockAndSage]

I bet you could ask them and they would leave the brake and collar off.

Really interested in the Brouwers. They only show 6ARC builds on the website...are you aware of them doing 5.56 builds at all?

 

[TradLife406]

Ehh. Shaw is very hit or miss. Some a regret, some are good, some are mediocre, and quite a few are dog poo.

Yeah don't really want to FAFO too much. It'll be a project for next year anyways.

 

[Rolltide]

I have used quite a few rifles put together by Brouwer. They are excellent. Seekins isn’t remotely in the running.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm surprised to hear that about Seekins. I haven't heard any complaints about their ARs.

Edited to add one more question...

I assume Brouwer is your pick over Geissele as well? The GFR Stratomatch is one I've looked into a bit as well.

 

[Rolltide]

I am really tempted to pick up the Brouwer but just wish there were more suppressor options. Last I spoke with Unknown, they put the mk12 can on hold...maybe Brouwer would build a simple threaded option for an OG? The other options seem to be the 6.5 LMTs and the GFRs...and I don't think an OG 6S/6.5S will fit under either one of those handguards...

FWIW, I picked up a CAT VB6 a few months ago with plans to use it on my Daniel Defense MK12 until I decided what direction I wanted to go for 6 ARC.

I still haven't used it on anything besides the DD, but I've been impressed by it so far. That rifle has never shot better than 1 1/2" - 2" groups at 100 yards. Once I put the VB6 on, it became an entirely different rifle. The groups were cut in half, and it hangs with my PRI Gen 3 MOD O.

It's a sample size of one, so take that for what it is.