Take down Idea

[Tentman]

I've seen a lot of take down rifles over the years and owned a couple but they never quite seem to "hit the mark", being either too heavy (a TC Encore) too fiddly (a removable barrel remmy) or too crude (Handi rifle).

However I've got an idea for new project that is based on a very old concept that might be able to be "updated and improved" with modern construction methods.

For us down in NZ we like to hunt with the rifle "in hand" although a few guys do use pack scabbards - but a pack with anything above or below can make life very difficult, A take down would be used for the times when you have a long steep climb through very heavy "monkey scrub" which is the devil to climb through without any gear, let alone pack and rifle. The other scenario is descending, often in the dark with a big load of meat, its surprising how often there is a Matagouri scrub belt just above the riverbed you are trying to reach.

So, in the English "golden age" of gun-making, Holland and Holland made a take-down where the front action screw was drawn, and the barreled action could be taken out of the stock. There was a small lug at the tang that trapped it (so only the one screw). This sort of system would enable a rifle to be "in the backpack" where there is no chance of it catching on vegetation etc.

Now with stocks with aluminium inserts like the Manners DBM mini chassis removal to twi action screws (which could be set up to be retained in the stock) it might be possible to have a return to zero take-down that is very light, very hand and would only require one small tool to take-down. I'm sure this has been done, does anybody know by whom or have links on this sort of idea??

Thanks
Foster

 

[PathFinder]

I think that the idea is simple enough that nobody has bothered marketing it. I've definitely considered it. I'd do substantial return to zero testing before taking it to the field.
On the other hand, folding chassis like Black Collar Arms and the XLR Element 3.0 Mg are making a strong case for just going to a folding chassis.

 

[mcl]

The folding chassis/stock seems to be less trouble as it is all incorporated and the change of loosing tools/screws is minimized.

 

[VernAK]

The folding chassis/stock seems to be less trouble as it is all incorporated and the change of loosing tools/screws is minimized.

I think the new Sig folding rifle will be a hit........at least hunters here are ordering a lot of em......sight unseen. I may get interested as more calibers are added. A rifle that folds to 25" and is lightweight will be very attractive to many.

 

[Bebtawki]

I think the new Sig folding rifle will be a hit........at least hunters here are ordering a lot of em......sight unseen. I may get interested as more calibers are added. A rifle that folds to 25" and is lightweight will be very attractive to many.

Agreed. Seems like a tough task to try and match those features for the estimated street price.

 

[Wrench]

If it weren't for the potential pinch for length by big brother, I'd be interested in the Warren bow bolt in the stock.

The kifaru rambling rifle got down and the WTA takedown lug can scratch an itch too.

 

[Phil j]

Hs precision makes an awesome take down I have one in .300 win and .375 Ruger and have a .5 Moa guarantee .