Swarovski Z5i+ reticle and decision

[dprzaz]

Looking at getting a new sfp long range hunting scope for a new weatherby 307 alpine ct.... I had narrowed it down to the atacr sfp and the trijicon tenmile sfp but then I noticed the new swarovski z5i+ in sfp. There probably is no drop test as of yet on this guy but meanwhile I am looking at the available reticles and the one I would use is the BRS-I but I cannot find any info on what it really looks like besides on paper. The z8i looks neat and has the BRX-I reticle... Any idea on how these 2 compare, etc.?
Of the scopes I listed, any opinions on which one has a better eyebox, better overall field of view without it looking like a tunnel, and the overall durability?
Thanks! I had another name here and was a longtime member but my account was hacked and I have not posted much since.
Dennis in Tucson (coues whitetail hunter!)

 

[SomeJackassOnAForum]

If you want the dialer you'll end up with the BRW.

Both are 10 MOA reticles, so they're about 2/3 the size of a BRH/X

 

[gr8fuldoug]

The optics in the new Z5i+ are equal to the Z8

 

[dprzaz]

The large holdover points on the z5+ sort of scare me as they look huge in the illustrations. I cannot find a real live view of what it really looks like. The Tenmile looks finer and a bit more to my liking in their illustration but again, I cannot find a real view of that one either!

 

[Fritz D]

OP: if you have a Sportsman’s Warehouse in your area there’s a good chance they have the Z5+ in stock? I know the one in my area has 3 or 4 of them on display currently.

 

[SomeJackassOnAForum]

Field of view of the 5-25 at 100 yds is 4.2 ft, or 50.4". 10 MOA from the reticle is 10.47".

The reticle will be within the first 40% of the lower half of the field of view from center. In other words the diagram is exaggerated.

For more math fun, the reticle is roughly triangular, and has a 12 MOA wide lowest level, or 12.57". 0.5x10.47x12.57= 65.8 sq in. The total area of the FOV is π x 25.2x25.2, or 1995.04 sq in. So your reticle area (ignoring that it's see through in the gaps of the tree) is 3.4% of the whole image and 6.8% of the lower half.

 

[Marshfly]

Since you mentioned the drop test...
Z5's have plastic internals. Bet this does also. Ain't going to pass a drop test.

 

[Mike D Texas]

No way I would choose the Swaro over the others you mentioned.


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[SomeJackassOnAForum]

I was curious about how badly the reticle diagram represents the image through the scope, so I used my "remove background skills" in power point and threw this together. (Remove background took some of the black out of the reticle but you get the idea) This would be the 25x at 100 yds or so.

Since you mentioned the drop test...
Z5's have plastic internals. Bet this does also. Ain't going to pass a drop test.

All of those internals were built around their previous zero stop design. Turret on the Z5+ is totally different from any other Swaro Turret. Whether that means it can pass the drop test I don't know, but it's not the same.

 

[freddyG]

I doubt a swaro could pass a 1 inch drop tests. They are that flimsy.

 

[Steve O]

Since you mentioned the drop test...
Z5's have plastic internals. Bet this does also. Ain't going to pass a drop test.

Z5+ have Khales internals.

 

[Steve O]

I was curious about how badly the reticle diagram represents the image through the scope, so I used my "remove background skills" in power point and threw this together. (Remove background took some of the black out of the reticle but you get the idea) This would be the 25x at 100 yds or so.



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All of those internals were built around their previous zero stop design. Turret on the Z5+ is totally different from any other Swaro Turret. Whether that means it can pass the drop test I don't know, but it's not the same.

That is a really well done illustration. Impressive!

 

[Marshfly]

Z5+ have Khales internals.

Is that supposed to inspire confidence?

 

[Steve O]

Is that supposed to inspire confidence?

I thought there was one Khales that did pass the drip test. I was just pointing out the insides were not the same on the Z5 and the Z5+

I’m trying to get one. If I do I may send it in to get tested.

 

[Marshfly]

I thought there was one Khales that did pass the drip test. I was just pointing out the insides were not the same on the Z5 and the Z5+

I’m trying to get one. If I do I may send it in to get tested.

I thought one had been tested also. I just searched and it looks like not but there's a lot of comments about how they don't hold up.