Suppressor for dummies

[mad_angler]

I've read most of the suppressor threads and I'm still confused...

I just bought a new-to-me 7mm Rem mag. It is threaded. I think I want a suppressor. I want the suppressor for recoil relief first and sound suppression second. I do not want to shoot the rifle with the existing brake because they are obnoxious at the range and can damage hearing in the field.

I will only use the suppressor for elk hunting. Being short and light are my main criteria (I think)

I'm not excited about spending $1,000 and then $200 for the tax stamp.

My questions are:
- Do I need to spend $1,200?
- If my budget was $1,200, which suppressor should I get?
- If my budget was $800 ($600 for suppressor and $200 for stamp), what suppressor should I get?

 

[11boo]

I’m far from knowledgeable, only have one. A griffin .22 can. It is well made.

I have been wanting a .30 cal can, and their https://www.griffinarmament.com/sil...s/sportsman-ultra-light-hd-hunting-silencers/ is on my radar. 7mm would work in that too. It would be easy to spend much more.
Add in all the extra costs too, not just the 200 tax.

It seems most like the muzzle adapter mount, rather than just threading on. I don’t know anything about that part.

My fingerprints were done on a scanner at the ups store. 60 bucks, but you can roll your own. I thought it would be faster cause you just submit the eft file.

Not sure anything will be hearing safe in that caliber. Maybe you knew that? Hunting, a few shots, probably.

Oh yeah, all the “quick approval” stuff didn’t work quick for me. Almost 1 year. No criminal anything on my end.
I will say capital armory made it easy and they carry everything.

 

[mlevimadden]

If short, cheap, and light, are your main criteria, I'd be looking hard at the Jolene.

https://www.silencershop.com/resilient-suppressors-jolene-s.html

 

[BigAntlerGetter]

Easy solution, get a muzzle break and get some axil ear phones when hunting, put in ur ear plugs to shoot,
Or just deal with it and wear ur ear plugs when shooting several rounds. It’s better I have a muzzle brake on my 338 when shooting tomatoes I have my plugs, if I have a quick shot we just deal with it, if I have time I put in the plugs before the shot. I have not seen a benefit to a suppressor with animals vs muzzle brake beside benefit to the hunter and guide or person standing around. Muzzle brake breaks up the sound and animals have hard time of pin pointing, to me it’s extra barrel length and light weight…. Coming from a guide


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[Machingeaneer]

Easy solution, get a muzzle break and get some axil ear phones when hunting, put in ur ear plugs to shoot,
Or just deal with it and wear ur ear plugs when shooting several rounds. It’s better I have a muzzle brake on my 338 when shooting tomatoes I have my plugs, if I have a quick shot we just deal with it, if I have time I put in the plugs before the shot. I have not seen a benefit to a suppressor with animals vs muzzle brake beside benefit to the hunter and guide or person standing around. Muzzle brake breaks up the sound and animals have hard time of pin pointing, to me it’s extra barrel length and light weight…. Coming from a guide


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I don't think many people are willing to just deal with guaranteed hearing damage

 

[HairyScandinavian]

If short, cheap, and light, are your main criteria, I'd be looking hard at the Jolene.

https://www.silencershop.com/resilient-suppressors-jolene-s.html

^this. Check it out, OP.

 

[WeiserBucks]

I don't think many people are willing to just deal with guaranteed hearing damage

You'd be surprised. I'd be willing to bet the majority of shots on game are without ear protection or suppressor year in and year out.

I shoot suppressed exclusively.

 

[cowdisciple]

^this. Check it out, OP.

I think that's really the only solid option at the sub-1k price point. It does specify minimum 22" barrel length for 7mm rem mag, so that could be a sticky point.

Kind of interesting that they group everything from 300 PRC down to 6.5 PRC in the minimum 22", then . 308 and 6.5 Creed are at 14.5". No middle ground?

 

[HairyScandinavian]

You'd be surprised. I'd be willing to bet the majority of shots on game are without ear protection or suppressor year in and year out.

I shoot suppressed exclusively.

Agree. I have a good selection of suppressors and shoot suppressed a lot, but sometimes I don't. There's a whole lotta peeps out there that don't even own one and I've never seen anybody wear ear pro while hunting.

 

[Machingeaneer]

Agree. I have a good selection of suppressors and shoot suppressed a lot, but sometimes I don't. There's a whole lotta peeps out there that don't even own one and I've never seen anybody wear ear pro while hunting.

Bare muzzle for sure but I should've been more specific about no ear pro with a brake which is an order of magnitude more harmful

 

[06 SB]

I understand and was in the same boat as you last year. I now have quite a few. The two I would be looking at are the Diligent Defense Enticer STi and the Resilient Jolene S. I have both and use have used them on several rifles including a 7mmRM. Do not expect Hollywood quiet unless you are shooting subsonic ammo with a large suppressor. Both these cans take the edge off when hunting without ear protection and prevent the dreaded ringing. The DD is just a little better according to those I shoot with but it is hard for me to tell when shooting. It is a bit more expensive though. You would be happy with either. The SilencerCO Omega 300 is known to be a great suppressor too but I do not have first hand knowledge. At the range, I still use hearing protection and you should too.

As far as the process goes it is not too hard but can be daunting. My first one was through Silencer Shop and it was easy.
Silencer Shop Process:
1. Set up an account/profile with Silencer Shop.
2. Add the suppressor you want to the cart.
3. Add the Tax Stamp to the cart.
4. Select your desired local Silencer Shop Retailer.
5. Check out.
6. Set up a Trust. I went through NFA Lawyers LLC in Atlanta, GA but Silencer Shop has there own.
7. Upload a PDF copy of the completed/notarized Trust to Silencer Shop.
8. Get Finger Printed. See your local Silencer Shop retailer for free digital prints.
Silencer Shop will ship the suppressor to the local retailer. Once it gets there and everything is verified correct, the retailer will call you to certify everything and the package gets submitted electronically to ATF. Now your waiting time begins. Mine have been averaging 2 weeks. Once it gets approved, you pick it up at the shop you selected. You can also do steps 6-8 first but that is the way I did it the first time.

 

[Blackstewart]

I've read most of the suppressor threads and I'm still confused...

I just bought a new-to-me 7mm Rem mag. It is threaded. I think I want a suppressor. I want the suppressor for recoil relief first and sound suppression second. I do not want to shoot the rifle with the existing brake because they are obnoxious at the range and can damage hearing in the field.

I will only use the suppressor for elk hunting. Being short and light are my main criteria (I think)

I'm not excited about spending $1,000 and then $200 for the tax stamp.

My questions are:
- Do I need to spend $1,200?
- If my budget was $1,200, which suppressor should I get?
- If my budget was $800 ($600 for suppressor and $200 for stamp), what suppressor should I get?

Call Silencer Co. They have experts on staff that deal with suppressors all day every day.

 

[Gadjet]

One thing to consider is how long your rifle will end up if you add a 6-9 inch suppressor on the end of it. If your rifle has a 24-26 inch barrel to start with, I would highly recommend that you get the barrel shortened and rethreaded. I hunted my first year with a suppressor with a 24 inch barrel and I absolutely hated it for lugging around in the brush. Got my barrel shortened to 20 inches and it's a game changer.
As far as the suppressor goes, I use the Banish Backcountry. It's short and light, and in my opinion a great option for a hunting rifle. You might also look at some over the barrel suppressors like the AB Raptor or the new one coming out from Unknown Munitions.

 

[BigAntlerGetter]

I don't think many people are willing to just deal with guaranteed hearing damage

Pretty easy to deal with it lol, ever heard of hearing protection? Pretty simple, 1-2 shots behind the barrel isn’t going to damage you, I’m a guide I’m more worried about bystanders, how do we deal with it…. Hmmm ear plugs are simple, plugging ur ears, the shooter doesn’t get nearly the amount of DB as anyone else around. 10 seconds throw in ear plugs 10 cents better than $1300 and having a government issued thing on ur record lol.


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[Tullis94]

If recoil suppression is your main goal I would look at a DD STI then add a Dead Air E Brake to the end. there are probably other brakes also, that is just the one that I know fits. It will make the can longer though. The Jolene does not have a removable end cap so that is not an option if you go that route.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Capital Armory currently has Ultra 7 30 cal DT and CB models in stock.

 

[dr.mooseknuckles]

I did one of the Ducks Unlimited March Madness squares on early bird that got me a "free" 22 suppressor through Silencer Central (a $350 value!) and upgraded it to a Banish 30 along with an adapter to allow me to use on my AR. In total, I think it was around $1300. Got notified it was shipped today. I guess I can write off $350 on my taxes, so theoretically, I only gave the Man $50. That's my simple math though

 

[OKHunter84]

Not sure how knowledgeable you are, but one thing to consider if you're only wanting to use elk hunting only is zeroing your rifle. If you zero your rifle with a suppressor then your zero will be off if you shoot without it. It's a predicable adjustment but still something to be aware of. I bought a 7.62mm SAS reaper a long time ago with the thread over muzzle break attachment. I use it on 30cal and down. I have a separate rimfire can but for 6.5 creedmoor, 7prc, 300wm, I use my 7.62mm can that's rated for Magnum pressures.

You'll have to know the thread pitch of your barrel once you take your factory break off. You'd also want to be careful when removing. Most larger calibers are 5/8 x 24 but you never know.

The length of the barrel can become obnoxious as well. I have a 22" barrel that I run my can on and that's the longest I'll go for hunting. I have hunted with a 24" barrel and a can, it's like carrying a flagpole around and it throws the balance off.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Bare muzzle for sure but I should've been more specific about no ear pro with a brake which is an order of magnitude more harmful

Ah yeah good call on that, I absolutely hate brakes even if I'm wearing ear pro I don't like them.

 

[OKHunter84]

Ah yeah good call on that, I absolutely hate brakes even if I'm wearing ear pro I don't like them.

Yeah I'm pretty sure my cousin permanently damaged my hearing and his shooting a braked 257 weatherby out of the back of a pick up at a coyote. I was watching through binos and didn't plug my ears like a knuckle head.