Suggestions for a lever action?

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Hello, I post quite a bit here, but that has a lot to do with the wealth of knowledge on here. In the world of tikkas and trijicons there are also lever guns.

I was wanting to get a lever gun to chase whitetails and black bears in the mountains next to my house in Kentucky. Shots are 100-125 (imagine Appalachian mountains) and in, maybe even less depending on where I’m hunting, but I cannot decide on caliber. I have a Winchester model 94ae 30-30 I bought at a pawn shop years back, but I’m wanting something new.

I’ve decided on Marlin Sbl series due to the weather resistant stainless, laminate, tritium sights and threaded barrel for a suppresser. Now I just need to decide on a caliber.

357
30-30
44 mag
45-70 Gov

I understand they all have their advantages. The 357 and 44 mag is lighter, shorter, and holds more rounds, but can be limited by range. I know a lot of people are not fans of pistol cartridges in rifles. I could also pair it with a revolver at some point because why not? The 30-30 shoots flatter, but that’s not a huge deal. A 30 caliber bullet has a higher chance of deflecting if it hits a twig. The gun is also heavier and longer as it’s built off the same action as the 45-70. Holds less rounds also. If I'm some where I think a long shot may be present I’ll grab the tikka or model 70. The 45-70 is a thumper, has the cool factor, shoots a little flatter than the pistol calibers, but the gun weights 30% more and ammo costs roughly 30% more as well. Also kicks like a son of a gun, and I’m just curious if that’s necessary if moose, elk, and no big bears are a concern.

What’s everyone’s opinion?
 
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I do understand a 45-70 can be loaded down to 44 mag if needed but vice versa is impossible. I don’t reload is the only issue, and that also doesn’t sound very efficient if I did…
 

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I am going to be contrary to the idea of buying something new, and advise you stick with the 94AE you have in .30-30 Winchester. I'd take a faster .30" bullet over a slow larger caliber any day, particularly for the medium game you're after.

Grab and install an optic mount for the receiver of your 94AE. Put an Aimpoint T2 or similar on there. Now enjoy a "new" gun. Also buy some good ammo that handles that velocity well, like Federal Fusion or Hornady Monoflex.

If I was buying something new in 2025 there's no way I'd get a new lever gun. If you want a fun toy by all means go ahead, but they've lost their utility in comparison to current guns.
 
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Have a Marlin 1895 cowboy in 45-70 and Winchester 94ae in 44mag.
They both would do what your talking about.
I have the 44 cause I also have a 44 revolver. Otherwise would probably just have the 45-70.
30-30 would do all that as well.
 
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Given the specifics of what you shared, and what you need to do...

The 38/357s are an absolute joy to shoot.

With some hot .357 pushing a good bullet, they'll kill a deer at 100yds just as dead as .44 mag, especially out of a long gun. Of the 4, it's also the first I'd choose for defense and general use, and it's also the cheapest to feed. Given that you've already got the 30-30, it'd be a great balance. If not that, I'd go with the .44. Love me some 45-70, but the 30-30 already covers that end of the spectrum for you.
 
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45-70 in a Marlin

Get “cowboy loads” that shoot a 405 grain bullet ≈ 1,400 (SWAG) fps for light duty stuff. Get Buffalo Bore for full power.

Better yet, get into reloading.
 
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45-70 in a Marlin

Get “cowboy loads” that shoot a 405 grain bullet ≈ 1,400 (SWAG) fps for light duty stuff. Get Buffalo Bore for full power.

Better yet, get into reloading.
I plan on beginning the reloading journey when I get my own place. I’m in the Corps rn stationed in Cali.
 

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I am going to be contrary to the idea of buying something new, and advise you stick with the 94AE you have in .30-30 Winchester. I'd take a faster .30" bullet over a slow larger caliber any day, particularly for the medium game you're after.

Grab and install an optic mount for the receiver of your 94AE. Put an Aimpoint T2 or similar on there. Now enjoy a "new" gun. Also buy some good ammo that handles that velocity well, like Federal Fusion or Hornady Monoflex.

If I was buying something new in 2025 there's no way I'd get a new lever gun. If you want a fun toy by all means go ahead, but they've lost their utility in comparison to current guns.
This. Plus you’ll avoid the dreaded Marlin jam that seems to affect about half of them, although I haven’t handled one of the newer ones so that may not apply.
 

Hoopleheader

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The correct answer is to buy them all…. Staring with 45-70.

Even with factory ammo, you can load her mild to wild.
 

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