Suggestions for a lever action?

ElPollo

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Lots of good advice here already. Love lever guns. Don’t shoot them as much as I used to because even in my mid-fifties, iron sights are getting harder to use. For me, I can do alright with barrel mounted irons, but cannot use a peep sight for love nor money.

On the 45-70, it’s overkill for deer and bears. And most of the people I’ve known who’ve bought Marlin lever guns in that caliber have sold them or don’t shoot them much due to high recoil. That said, I’ve always wanted an 1886 in that caliber.

I will also second the suggestion for a Savage 99. Great lever guns. 250 Savage would be a super cool caliber for deer and black bears. It’s also a caliber that dates back to 1915. You can also find them in 300 Savage, 308, 243, and other calibers. I have a buddy that has two 300 Savages (One of them is his new saddle gun for horse packing in WY and MT). The 150 Hornady SST factory load is a great choice. It’s a gun you can scope, run a peep sight on, or use factory iron sights.

The 1895s are also super cool guns, but you are pretty stuck with 30/06 in the reproductions. I like the Browning versions that have the traditional half cock notch and no tang safety. The Winchesters have the tang safety and a much heavier trigger. Theses guns are also on the pricier side.

A 357 lever gun is a super handy thing and it will kill deer. But from a ballistics perspective, you are going to end up doing more tracking than you would with a Savage. The 357 is not going to create the same wound channels as the calibers you are going to run through the Savages. I prefer to do as little tracking as possible.
 

Hoopleheader

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Lots of good advice here already. Love lever guns. Don’t shoot them as much as I used to because even in my mid-fifties, iron sights are getting harder to use. For me, I can do alright with barrel mounted irons, but cannot use a peep sight for love nor money.

On the 45-70, it’s overkill for deer and bears. And most of the people I’ve known who’ve bought Marlin lever guns in that caliber have sold them or don’t shoot them much due to high recoil. That said, I’ve always wanted an 1886 in that caliber.

The 1895s are also super cool guns, but you are pretty stuck with 30/06 in the reproductions. I like the Browning versions that have the traditional half cock notch and no tang safety. The Winchesters have the tang safety and a much heavier trigger. Theses guns are also on the pricier side.

With milder factory loads, I find 45-70 recoil very tame. A lot has to do with the recoil velocity. More of a shotgun type push than a sharp punch. If you can shoot 1 to 1 1/18 oz shotgun loads comfortably, a 45-70 with 300 grains sub 1900 fps is in the same ballpark IMO. Anyone afraid of theirs can sell them to me. I’d also much rather shoot my 16 inch Marlin trapper from the bench than my savage 99 in 300 savage as that has a steel butt plate and I’m not inclined to modify it.

I was joking when I seconded a Win 1895 in 405, (talk about recoil), but that is available (I bought mine new a year ago). Ammo is not. The trigger on mine breaks at a crisp ~4 lbs and feels lighter than it is. It’s a simple mechanism that can be worked on.

Marlin triggers can be worked on or replaced aftermarket to get a good light pull. My 336 SBL with a Wild West trigger kit is less than 3 lbs without replacing a hammer spring for reliability. Cowboy shooters get them to 2 lbs by using g a weak hammer spring.

If I were the OP and dead set on supplementing his 94 and wanted the most practical lever gun (eliminating non-stainless as that is part of his criteria) Id rank them as follows:

Marlin 336 SBL in 30-30 or Browning BLR stainless takedown in .308, 7mm- 08 or .243. Not sure if the BLR triggers are easily worked on. What I have handled have been heavy.

Marlin 1895 SBL or Trapper in 45-70

Marlin 1894 SBL or Trapper in 44 mag. I’m sure .357 will work, but why when the 44 mag recoil is very manageable.


The good part is that there are only correct choices.
 
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Your 30-30 will do everything you need,but I understand wanting something new and different.
My first thought would be buy a reloading setup with the money for when you get out.
Second thought a good 22 lever for plinking and small game.
I love my 45-70 and recoil is very easy with 405 grain factory loads that are low pressure for older trapdoors.
Whatever I got it would be 16 inch and threaded for suppressor use.
Don't forget about the savage 99 and Browning blr.
My 16inch 99 in 308 is a joy to carry and gives me more range than traditional lever calibers.
Bottom line is there is no wrong choice just pick what makes you happy.
Forgot to mention I have a 9422 and o
9422M as well.
 
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