Study finds Tatoo ink accumulates in Lymph nodes

[TaperPin]

I always knew tattooed gals were more fun - who knew it was because ink collected in their lymph nodes?!

 

[Billy Goat]

I always knew tattooed gals were more fun - who knew it was because ink collected in their lymph nodes?!

 

[Beendare]

An animal study that isn't even looking at long term health outcomes, but rather a 2 month window following intermediary markers and lacks a control (in this case skin trauma without ink).

Complete healing takes up to 6 months, so not surprising the immune system showed alterations.

The vaccine response is interesting, but not really anything practice to do with it.

There are epidemiological studies that show correlation between tattoos and lymphoma in one and skin cancer in another. This could hold up, but that data looks too weak to firmly state causation.

People would be much better off avoiding tobacco, nicotine, alcohol, charred meats, and marijuana products. As well as exercising and getting adequate sleep.

No one should feel they are healthy because they don't have tattoos. But, this adds one more thing to be considered before deciding to get a tattoo. Though concerns about infection and being stuck with crappy body art should rank higher at this point.

Yeah, thats^ accurate. It's all degrees.

I do believe exposure to chemicals and solvents is a risk to our bodies.

Colored Tat ink contains carcinogens....many sources on that.

Does getting a colored Tat have the same effect on my body as the glass of wine I had last night at dinner?
I dunno......I hope not- grin

 

[Beendare]

tats are just another "look at me" more than anything else.....and largely a complete waste of money. Want to look inclusive, get purple hair dye. It's cheaper and don't need to worry about wrinkly skin tats when you are 70.

But purple hair dye seriously increases your risk of being massively overweight.

Or is it the other way around? - grin

 

[180ls1]

This stuff is kinda like playing russian roulette with a 50 shot revolver. Every poor choice is like tossing another bullet in the chamber.

 

[jahaze]

I waited until I turned 50 to get my first tattoo, that way they're still fresh when I'm 80. They are kind of like tequila shots, it's hard to have just one...planning on #5 soon.

Life is all about choices, if you don't like them, or don't want the risk, don't get one. Pretty simple.


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[Marbles]

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Cardiology diet: If it tastes good spit it out, if it is fun, don't do it.

Or, I just need more joy for myself, as I learned the 1st Law of Joy Dynamics on a sub: Joy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or changed from one form to another. Ergo if you need joy you must take it from others, and if you have joy you should hide it least others take it from you.

 

[Marbles]

Yeah, thats^ accurate. It's all degrees.

I do believe exposure to chemicals and solvents is a risk to our bodies.

Colored Tat ink contains carcinogens....many sources on that.

Does getting a colored Tat have the same effect on my body as the glass of wine I had last night at dinner?
I dunno......I hope not- grin

The bigger question, that will probably never be answered, is what inks cause long term issues.

Tattoos are pretty much a fixed dose and permanent, but everything else I listed isn't. There is nothing that says 1 glass of wine (or the single glass of eggnog and rum I had last night) is safe, but also no clear evidence to say that dose is harmful. You start getting into the 3+ standard drink range and that is causing issues (of course there will be individual variation). The amount of harm is dependent on the dose.

I have tattoos, they all have a personal meaning and I don't regret them 15-19 years later, they are reminders of how to approach life that I got for myself.

Risk is present in everything, we should try to reduce it, but zero risk doesn't exist and trying to get there is not always functional. The continuum between a reckless driver in an already unsafe vehicle and never getting in a car illustrates the point. One is unjustifiable, the other is dysfunctional.

The difficulty is when we don't understand the value someone else gets from something and push zero as the only option; or when we choose to ignore the risks to keep behaving how we want.

And for somethings zero is the only option because engaging hurts others directly.

 

[Billy Goat]

Ergo if you need joy you must take it from others, and if you have joy you should hide it least others take it from you.

@fngTony the joy stealer.

Guess he must be one happy dude.

 

[TaperPin]

I’m not sure where they are, but in my single days I should have offered to check these limping node thingies on tattooed dates and their friends. You know, being a gentleman and all.

 

[Burnsie]

Another reason I don't need a tattoo.

 

[MuleDeerMike]

I have sleeves.

I also breathed in trash pits overseas, ate sandwiches after cleaning my rifle with CLP, use nicotine, get crap sleep, eat food I shouldn't, and partied far too hard in my twenties.

I care about my health, but we live in a world where every two month study tells us that living life is going to kill us. So, why worry. Live it to your fullest and have no regerts.

As in break free CLP? What's wrong with that.

 

[rclouse79]

Chard meat is actually a thing though

I hate it when my misspelling is actually a word and spell check can’t save me. Often when I am typing something out and it gets a red line under it, I try three or four different spellings and then just sub in a synonym for it.

 

[TandKHunting]

As in break free CLP? What's wrong with that.

I guess will see in 20 years. So far, so good.

 

[ozyclint]

Has a pre Christmas gathering of all our neighbours last night. I brought some of my venison salami and wild pork chorizo. One neighbour was duly impressed and asked if I made them nitrite free. I said no, I use #1 and #2 cures.
He's getting into making some himself and said he's going nitrite free because it has been linked to cancer.

He said this while drinking alcohol.

 

[JGRaider]

Never understood the appeal anyway.

 

[taskswap]

Has there ever been a study that didnt find something causing health issues or a higher rate of cancer?

I know you're being sarcastic but yes, hundreds. Just a few examples, underwire bras, artificial sweeteners, cell phones, and power lines were all extensively studied to look for cancer links and none were found.

If it seems as though this is a high-rate thing, that's just a form of survivorship bias. They don't study the carcinogenic effects of purified water, tree bark, or the rock you sit on while hunting because there's no reason to. If you only study things you suspect cause cancer, then there will naturally be a much higher percentage of studies that find many things do. It doesn't mean the studies are biased toward finding those links. It just seems that way. It's literally the same thing as hunting elk in the mountains, not on the beach. You look for things where you have at least an educated guess of where to start.

 

[yfarm]

Was referred a woman with enlarged lymph nodes under her arm, did a needle biopsy, tissue was black usually means melanoma, pathologist reported inflammatory changes consistent with foreign body reaction - tattoo ink.
Had a farmer north of our property stick his arm in a sprayer tank filled with herbicide, took it out and licked his fingers saying to his neighbor this stuff can’t hurt you - dead 15 yrs later of leukemia, who knows?
Anecdotes are meaningless compared with controlled studies. Remember this when you make decisions based on single events. The odds are that the next time black is present in a tissue sample it will be melanoma unless there is a tattoo upstream.

 

[ewade07]

tats are just another "look at me" more than anything else.....and largely a complete waste of money. Want to look inclusive, get purple hair dye. It's cheaper and don't need to worry about wrinkly skin tats when you are 70. My son got one in college, and I told him to make that his only and last one. 20 years later it is still his only one. If you got excess money(few do), donate it to a worthy cause. There are lots of them. As for health issues I'm not in that camp.

i didnt get any of my 7 tattoos as a "look at me". sure, theres alot of people who get them on a whim and regret them. all of mine were specifically designed and each one has a special meaning to me so i wont care when they are faded and saggy when i die. sure, they cost me a fair bit of change throughout the years, but im sure you spend your money on stuff others would deem unfit as well. hell, youre a member on Rokslide

 

[Beendare]

Was referred a woman with enlarged lymph nodes under her arm, did a needle biopsy, tissue was black usually means melanoma, pathologist reported inflammatory changes consistent with foreign body reaction - tattoo ink.
Had a farmer north of our property stick his arm in a sprayer tank filled with herbicide, took it out and licked his fingers saying to his neighbor this stuff can’t hurt you - dead 15 yrs later of leukemia, who knows?
Anecdotes are meaningless compared with controlled studies. Remember this when you make decisions based on single events. The odds are that the next time black is present in a tissue sample it will be melanoma unless there is a tattoo upstream.

Good point. Anecdotal evidence is suspect...until it isn't.

My dad worked on the huge presses that make packaging with constant exposure to ink. His doc found that ink in his enlarged lymph nodes and he and a couple of the guys he worked with all got Parkinson's. Coincidence?

His story is much different than someone with a couple tats. He and his co workers had long term exposure.