Stay or Move Locations

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Background: early season hunt (late September/early October dates). I have scouted a location that has a lot of deer (does, fawns, small bucks, and medium size bucks), I know there are big deer but I have not personally found any. I have scouted other locations with less deer as well, again no big buck sightings. All areas have good road access.

Should I hunt where I find the biggest concentration of deer or hunt in lesser concentrated areas? Goal is a big mature buck.
 
If your goal is a mature buck and you’re not finding any where you’ve scouted and you feel like you’ve scouted good enough then I would leave. I know it’s hard to leave deer but if those big bucks aren’t there, you’re hunting ghosts. That time of year the big bucks aren’t going to be moving into areas to stage for rut or winter so I don’t think that you should be expecting a big buck to just appear one early October morning.

With that being said, if this is an area that you have hunted in the past and there’s generally mature bucks there, maybe dig a little deeper.

I think it’s tough to leave deer but sometimes you just have to, especially if you’re looking for a bigger buck.

Is this hunt desert, brush country, forested, sub alpine, alpine??
 
I would move, deer in August are generally still pretty visible.

You may not have to move far, where I hunt this time of year big deer are in groups of 3 or 4 and occupy little pockets here and there and I have to cover a fairly large amount of these pockets before I find some.

Also curious if you know there are big deer there specifically or in the unit in general?
 
I would move. During season I spend an evening and morning glassing. If I don’t locate a good deer in there I move that afternoon to the next spot or next basin. The exception is weather that time of year like snow/cold snap may spend an extra day if it looks ideal.

Last year I fell into the trap of putting my eggs into one basket packed in 6 miles and spend 4 out of my 9 days in a spot because I “felt” like a mature deer would be there. Saw scouting tons of deer but nothing mature. Don’t do that you are hunting a ghost. Keep moving, that time of year they’re either there or not. Obviously yes you could turn one up sitting on those deer but with scouting and not seeing any you’re doing exactly what I did. I ate tag soup, learn from my mistake cover ground. I knew better too but let my ego of this spot get in the way.
 
Background: early season hunt (late September/early October dates). I have scouted a location that has a lot of deer (does, fawns, small bucks, and medium size bucks), I know there are big deer but I have not personally found any. I have scouted other locations with less deer as well, again no big buck sightings. All areas have good road access.

Should I hunt where I find the biggest concentration of deer or hunt in lesser concentrated areas? Goal is a big mature buck.

Mule deer behave a little differently in different ecosystems, especially if they migrate or not. What general area are we talking about, and what type of terrain (Colorado timber, NV high desert, etc)?

More generally though, when you find concentrations of muleys, it's commonly because they've got a great food supply right there, fairly local. The more arid and desert we're talking, the more they will concentrate on those sparser places while they feed. They may commute a bit from better shelter, but if they're in any given spot in higher numbers, it's usually because of the feed situation.

And the more deer there are in that locale you're talking about, the higher likelihood you'll find a buck older than 4 or 5 years, often one that matured out of that very herd - but they'll generally be on the far periphery of where that herd tends to congregate (up to a mile or two, sometimes more). Everything comes down to security for those big, older bucks. So those herds are there because food is there, but those herds are also predator magnets, and the big, older bucks will often use them as an early-warning system. Often, that means finding them in places very secure from approach, that gives them good awareness with their eyes, ears, and especially noses, as well as escape routes. Usually, if terrain permits, well above and often overlooking the herd. Even better if it has good positioning for thermals.

Think of that herd you've found - now think of where you could overlook it, with your back to a secure spot a predator couldn't get over or through easily, with lots of shade, where the prevailing wind might come from behind you, but the thermals would come from below you in the morning and from above in the evening, and you'd hear or see anything coming from the sides. That's often what those big bucks are looking for. Those spots are so good, that if a big buck gets taken in one, a couple of years later there will often be another big one there - because it helps in their daily survival.

All that said, there are always exceptions, and you can find a buck almost anywhere that has shade. But I wouldn't walk away from that herd you've found - I'd use it as a starting point to begin thoroughly hunting its periphery. It's the biggest lead you have in finding a big buck.
 
When you say you know, how do you know?
I have a friend that hunts/scouts the same areas and he has seen big bucks in the same general areas. Also, from years past, I have seen big deer get taken from the same general area. Same general area as in a couple of drainages next to each other.
 
If your goal is a mature buck and you’re not finding any where you’ve scouted and you feel like you’ve scouted good enough then I would leave. I know it’s hard to leave deer but if those big bucks aren’t there, you’re hunting ghosts. That time of year the big bucks aren’t going to be moving into areas to stage for rut or winter so I don’t think that you should be expecting a big buck to just appear one early October morning.

With that being said, if this is an area that you have hunted in the past and there’s generally mature bucks there, maybe dig a little deeper.

I think it’s tough to leave deer but sometimes you just have to, especially if you’re looking for a bigger buck.

Is this hunt desert, brush country, forested, sub alpine, alpine??
Sub alpine. Easy access, otc tag, wooded timber stands
 
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