Stay Limits during Hunting Season(s)

Good thread, down here you can't get the FS to do anything about over stay's. There were 8 compliant's (from nearby residents) about 1 camp left for months and months. It made a great example, so everyone else just started leaving their camps all season. They show up around April and maybe remove them by December. Nice 5th wheels and bumper tows. You can tell when the camping season is over they are all back at the RV storage places at the bottom of the mountains. I call them covid campers, way worse since that mess. Worst part is the dumped blackwater tanks.
 
A couple summers ago my nephew was up working in sun valley driving draft teams. He took a camp trailer up and stayed in an RV park for the first few weeks of April and May as there was still some snow. The RV park cost more than he was making for work though. After the snow melted he took his trailer up the mountain somewhere and just came down everyday for work.

He eventually got evicted from the forest service. They told him he could move it but it was too many miles away to be feasible. He was able to park his trailer at his work in sun valley and finished the season.

I am not sure if someone turned him in or if the FS were actively doing their job. A little different than a camp holding a spot for hunting season but he definitely was over the 14 day limit.

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In rural areas I’ve seen rules enforced for “me and not for thee” based on who has the most political clout complaining the loudest.

It’s also become a game of musical chairs with homeless camps or “van life” homeless moving between spots. It’s always been like that, but the increased drug problems of the past two decades have produced many times the number of people living on public land.

I’ve known a few young knuckle heads that would rather live in a camper or bus and work part time rather than join mainstream working folk - and there are plenty of modern hippy websites where they compare notes on how to game the system. We all have our demons I suppose. I tried to talk an apprentice into keeping a full time job and he had to go live in his bus and go rock climbing. Stupid hippie. He hooked up with a stupid hippy chick. Turned out she’s an only kid and her wallstreet dad is worth over a billion $$. The takeaway is don’t take career advice from me. lol
Yep the homeless thing is bad in the front range, was out coyote hunting and found a tucked away trailer. They were commuting in and out with a car they parked on the road. Honestly if it’s a tidy camp and they move every two weeks. I could care less, but this place has about 20 contractor bags full of shit and what not, now that gets me fired up. The slobs who dump waste human and otherwise all over and expect others to pick up after them. The FS people actually did something on them, went back a month later and they were gone
 
I've seen it in many NF area's of NM, one thought for me is when I see a camper and gear or tent camp left for days or weeks at a time is that theft must be low in the area.

I was out scouting this past week and ran into a crew of DIY elk hunters. One guy said his son had an early Oct tag and planned to back at the same spot. I asked if was leaving his camp and his said all but his SxS. I asked if was concerned about theft and he said no. Leave the door unlocked incase someone wants in, that way you don't have to repair or replace a door.

I have seen a few that looked like homeless residents of the NF like mentioned above. Here's one that made me nervous. It was an old dump site on NF land that's commonly used as a rifle site in range. I rolled over the hill and find the Walter White mobile parked there. Both the RV and truck looked functional.

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The newer outfitter camp I found had 3 wall tents 4, 110 rotomolded coolers and smaller dome tents, weird thing is I expected horse trailer at the trailhead as it was just the day before season… a saw them pack it in a month or so ago, general question, do outfitters in CO have to post their outfit and registration # at their camp? I’m guessing these guys are on the up and up, but I also have heard of people “outfitting under the table” which is sketchy
No they do not have to post it
 
No they do not have to post it
Thanks man, I chatted with the outfit owner and it’s one of his, he moved a camp this year which is all good ( I mean it kind of blows since they put it right in the bottom of a drainage I hunt) but it is what it is, I may still hunt there or I may move, but it’s all on the up and up.
 
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