Stainless vs brass insert

Both will perform equally well. I would choose whichever is cheaper and/or gets you closer to your desired total arrow weight. Stainless steel is a stronger material, but that extra strength isn’t going to offer any practical advantage in a HIT application.
 
Yea both would be 50 gr. I only asked due to pricing difference between the two.
 
Stainless steel in the same weight as brass is going to be longer, which will stiffen the arrow. Mainly only a concern with 100 gr inserts, that's where the difference in length is more dramatic.

I have bent brass inserts, tho generally I don't feel like it's a concern, and still use them.
 
Billy Goat said:
Stainless steel in the same weight as brass is going to be longer, which will stiffen the arrow. Mainly only a concern with 100 gr inserts, that's where the difference in length is more dramatic.
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True, but the difference in material density is only about 10%, so a SS HIT will be about 10% longer than a brass HIT of the same weight. 10% longer would be around 1/16" to 1/8" for a .204" HIT in the 50-100 gr range. I can't see that small of a length difference having any noticeable effect.
 
Mighty Mouse said:
True, but the difference in material density is only about 10%, so a SS HIT will be about 10% longer than a brass HIT of the same weight. 10% longer would be around 1/16" to 1/8" for a .204" HIT in the 50-100 gr range. I can't see that small of a length difference having any noticeable effect.
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They build up the front of the brass insert a bit more. I know I have had SS 100gr inserts twice as long as brass. Might be the brass were solid on the back, whereas the SS was drilled thru or something. I'm not concerned over 1/4" this was inch or little more. Effectively shortening the shaft.

I missed the hit part. Haven't bent those in brass.
 
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Billy Goat said:
They build up the front of the brass insert a bit more. I know I have had SS 100gr inserts twice as long as brass. Might be the brass were solid on the back, whereas the SS was drilled thru or something. I'm not concerned over 1/4" this was inch or little more. Effectively shortening the shaft.
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Interesting. I figured that for both materials the front half inch or so would be drilled out to accommodate threads and they would be solid behind the threaded portion. But if the SS ones are drilled deeper, I can see how they would end up being significantly longer.
 
Mighty Mouse said:
Interesting. I figured that for both materials the front half inch or so would be drilled out to accommodate threads and they would be solid behind the threaded portion. But if the SS ones are drilled deeper, I can see how they would end up being significantly longer.
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I had edited my post. I originally missed the fact it centered around HIT inserts.

When I was talking about the length difference, I was referring to the differences I have seem in "standard" .244-.246 inserts, and just suggesting that part of the difference could be from being drilled out. Plus the front shoulder of a brass insert is thicker than a SS.

In terms of hits, I think the difference between brass and SS would be very small. Like you said, it's not that much weight difference between the materials, and a hit is so small anyways, not a lot of area to leave or remove extra materials.
 
If you ever want to remove them the SS will not mushroom and ruin like brass. I have removed Iron Will Stainless inserts and reused them in different arrows before. I've never had good luck removing brass inserts without ruining them. It really just depends though because you can buy several sets of brass for the cost of IW components, I'm running 100gr stainless inserts like mentioned above brass does bend as well. I missed low on a target and hit a rock and bent a brass HIT, the arrow wouldn't fly with a broadhead after that but was a good practice arrow and eventually met its fate at a 3D shoot.
 
nphunter said:
If you ever want to remove them the SS will not mushroom and ruin like brass. I have removed Iron Will Stainless inserts and reused them in different arrows before. I've never had good luck removing brass inserts without ruining them. It really just depends though because you can buy several sets of brass for the cost of IW components, I'm running 100gr stainless inserts like mentioned above brass does bend as well. I missed low on a target and hit a rock and bent a brass HIT, the arrow wouldn't fly with a broadhead after that but was a good practice arrow and eventually met its fate at a 3D shoot.
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Did those IW inserts have hot melt or epoxy? How’d you get them out?
 
MT257 said:
Had they fully cured? I tried that on one and the bit is stuck in the shaft now.
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yes fully cured for a long time. I’ve done it to several sets of D6 stainless HIT’s also. You have to use the right size but so it doesn’t get stuck and make sure the flat side is pointing toward the insert.
 
What arrows are you shooting? I prefer the easton SS halfouts (75 grain) on 5mm arrows.
 
nphunter said:
yes fully cured for a long time. I’ve done it to several sets of D6 stainless HIT’s also. You have to use the right size but so it doesn’t get stuck and make sure the flat side is pointing toward the insert.
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Got all of the ones I needed to pull out except the one. I'll give it a rest I swung the arrow/bit around enough for one day of fun.
 
I just installed brass hits with TopHat protector rings on some axis. I used hotmelt. So far so good. I’ll probably use them on the rip tko’s as well.
 
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