Staccato - talk me out of it…😳

[Cameron.25]

The main problem with them is shape of the grip. Bumps, humps, palm swells, etc are not good for shooting performance.

Thanks. Any experience with the leugo alien?

 

[USMC-40]

Thanks. Any experience with the leugo alien?

My brother just purchased one maybe a month ago and probably has 1k rounds through it. I’ve shot it and it’s unique - no malfunctions of any kind whatsoever and the bore axis creates an almost non-existent recoil impulse. Hard to find holsters though, but there are places that can handle that.

 

[WesternDawg]

I just got some bonus money from work I wasn’t expecting and my wife said to spoil myself. I’ve got more hunting rifles and nightforce/trijicon scopes than I use. I have traditionally been a glock guy. Own and use a handful of them…never had a nice handgun. Everything I have read about the Staccato CS appeals to me. Is there something better I should be looking at for around the same price point? Any reason not to get a staccato? Any bad experiences with them? @Formidilosus ?

Caveat to this post: I’m not a competitive shooter or anything close.

Just got done renting both the CS and the P at a local range. Really liked the P, super smooth and accurate. The CS seemed cool and well made, just wasn’t as fun to shoot given its size (understanding that this is my opinion; your results may vary). I was leaning towards potentially picking up both at some point but am now thinking about getting the P and saving a little money on the EDC gun and going with an sig x macro instead.

 

[Cameron.25]

My brother just purchased one maybe a month ago and probably has 1k rounds through it. I’ve shot it and it’s unique - no malfunctions of any kind whatsoever and the bore axis creates an almost non-existent recoil impulse. Hard to find holsters though, but there are places that can handle that.

I'm reading that the gas system causes it to heat up pretty quick after a couple mags, one video showed the trigger guard at 180° after 50 rounds rapid fired. Did you experience this? It looks like a cool gun but that would bother me I think

 

[USMC-40]

I did not, I slow fired a mag - I’ll ask him

 

[11boo]

Anyone found a website that offers discounts on Staccatos? Big Tex used to offer 10% off and no taxes but they stopped.

Hardly any discount on them anywhere. Stac will cut you a deep discount if you are a cop,
A small one for a vet.
Only cheaper way to get one is used, and their warranty is only good for the original owner.

 

[Fever Buck]

Hardly any discount on them anywhere. Stac will cut you a deep discount if you are a cop,
A small one for a vet.
Only cheaper way to get one is used, and their warranty is only good for the original owner.

Good to know. Thanks

 

[PaulIV]

There is a cosmetic blemish section on the staccato website that saves a few hundred bucks typically. They tend to go very quickly and all the reviews indicate the blemish is often not even found by the buyers. I’ve been stalking for a while hoping the combo I want shows up.

 

[doc holiday13]

I will not talk you out of it. If you like it, its not going to hurt you financially and you can feed it.. DO IT..

 

[stan_wa]

Staccato P with more than 40,000 rounds without any cleaning whatsoever.

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Its first and only malfunction was at over 30,000 rounds. The extractor was completely filled with carbon and brass shavings and it could not grab the cartridge rim at all. Pulled the extractor, scrapped the carbon out with a knife, put it back in and it has been working perfectly for another 10,000 plus rounds.

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The C and CS’s are better pistols still due the true 9mm mags and external extractor.

From i seem to remember seeing somewhere else that you have another staccato with a stupid high round count between cleanings.
I was just talking to a buddy who has three staccatos and shoots 5000 rounds a month so personally by far he shoots the most out of anyone I know and he was saying that after 2 to 3000 rounds on all of his 2011 style guns. he starts to get failures .
Is there any lube or other tricks were using to get such great success?

 

[fisherman983]

I finally got to finger a couple today at scheels. Needless to say at some point I'll own one when finances allow.


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[Formidilosus]

From i seem to remember seeing somewhere else that you have another staccato with a stupid high round count between cleanings.
I was just talking to a buddy who has three staccatos and shoots 5000 rounds a month so personally by far he shoots the most out of anyone I know and he was saying that after 2 to 3000 rounds on all of his 2011 style guns. he starts to get failures .
Is there any lube or other tricks were using to get such great success?

They have to be lubed, they will not run long without it. I use the “red” recoil spring (heavy), and Atlas +18% magazine springs in Gen 3 Staccato mags.

 

[Beendare]

It's surprising to me guys will go so long without cleaning/oiling their guns. Is that a thing now?

Its like trying to stretch the oil changes on your truck-why?

 

[Steve300xcw]

It's surprising to me guys will go so long without cleaning/oiling their guns. Is that a thing now?

Its like trying to stretch the oil changes on your truck-why?

I think its nice to know how much a gun can handle before it starts getting pissy. Other n that its just so you can brag about it.

 

[Formidilosus]

It's surprising to me guys will go so long without cleaning/oiling their guns. Is that a thing now?

Its like trying to stretch the oil changes on your truck-why?

1). Finding what is the limit of the gun.

2). When you are shooting 6 to 7 days a week, and 200 to 1,000 rounds a day- and realize that guns do not need to be cleaned to work correctly- and in fact it seems that they malfunction less, when dirty versus clean; you find that there are better things to do than “clean” for the sake of cleaning.

It is a myth that proper modern guns work better clean. They don’t. At best they work the same- most often it seems they malfunction more often right after cleaning than they do when they haven’t been cleaned in hundreds or thousands of rounds.

 

[Formidilosus]

I think its nice to know how much a gun can handle before it starts getting pissy.

That’s one reason.

Other n that its just so you can brag about it.

No.

 

[Braaap]

@Formidilosus what lube for Staccato or other 1911’s or 2011’s?

 

[Matt5266]

Hawk Tuah

 

[RockAndSage]

@Formidilosus what lube for Staccato or other 1911’s or 2011’s?

A heavier oil that stays put, or a really, really lightweight grease. With oils, just about any motor oil does better than just about any gun oil - go with a 0W20, 0W30, or 0W40 in the winter if it's a duty gun or something outside of clothing. Those weights are also good year-round, but given we're in NV, in really hot, high-volume shooting your heavier oils, like 10W30, a 15W, or even a 20W50 motorcycle oil work very well. Motor oils have additive packages that help quite a bit, that gun oils on the market for the most part just have little to none of. Even the multi-weight additives, that can take a 0W room-temp oil and make perform the way a 40W oil at 200F are an additive gun oils don't have (that helps keep it from thinning out too much when hot). The biggest problems gun oils have compared to motor oils is usually they either burn off way too quick (CLP especially), or they freeze up at relatively warm temps that a 0W oil will still be loose and fluid in.

For greases, you want something about the consistency of a lotion. TW-25b is a good one, the cherry balms greases are very good, lubriplate has some NLGI #0s that are cheap in bulk, and Geissele has their super lightweight go-juice. Those are the only ones I know of that are good in both hot and, especially, very low temperatures.

The biggest mistake people make in lubing 1911s isn't actually choice of lubricant - it's placement and quantity. So, hit the rails, locking lugs, link, barrel exterior, and the underside of the slide that the hammer gets cocked against, along with any little spot of rub-wear you see, and put it on a little on the thicker side.