I've never paid attention to that end of my riser thing. Remember - I'm your draw length or maybe even longer. Depending on the bow I'm 29-29.25" draw, and the longest arrow I've run in the last 4-5 years was 27.5" carbon to carbon. That is based on torque tuning / testing where my rest ends up and allows me to do it though.
Also - think about how draw length is measured. Take a measurement from the throat of your grip to the inside of your string at full draw. That measurement is 1.75" shorter than DL, If your draw length is 29", you're looking at 27.25". So, take a 27.5" carbon to carbon arrow, add nock, and end of the carbon is .5" ahead of the throat of your grip with broadhead over the shelf.
Also - Not a fan of any outsert personally. I run Brass HIT with the IW Collar. Black Eagle Rampage and Easton Axis.
And - your release doesn't affect your draw length, just your anchor. Unless you're changing the string position relative to the tip of your nose at full draw, which I don't like to do.
Brendan,
Good info, thank you. A couple things for me personally:
I shoot a fixed blade broadhead (IW S100) and I ordered my arrows pre-cut from Lancaster as I don't yet have a arrow saw. Buddy down the street has a nice setup, so we will trim down if the broadhead fits within the riser with sufficient margins for my comfort level. The IW S100 isn't a particularly wide broadhead, so it will probably fit, but starting out conservative. This is a hunting bow that I shoot field points a ton with, but only for practice for hunting. I understand the benefits of a shorter arrow, but if my BH hits the side of my riser, it won't really matter how well I execute the shot.
I did an actual measurement with my old arrow in my bow, and I need the full length to get the blade to the front of the riser. As mentioned, I have not measured my actual draw length on a draw board, so it may be at 29.5".
This arrow build is not with an outsert, and the FOCUS system is kind of a hybrid system. It does add a good bit of length though because the the entire FP/BH threading is out past the shaft of the arrow. The SS version works great, but I broke a couple of the AL versions, which is the only material available for the Rampage. This is why I am switching to the Iron Will HIT insert and the SS IW Collar. My total arrow length of me old arrows, counting the FOCUS system was 28.75." With this length, my entire fieldpoint (X Spot Easy Pull) is behind the front of my riser.
A couple comments on draw length. My old bow was 34.75" ATA and my Kure is just shy of 32". Due to the change in string angle, to keep my head in a correct position and still touch my nose, my anchor point is further back, which extends my draw length. You are right, it is not due purely to release, but I do find when I draw my old bow, that it was a tiny bit short. It was even shorter before and I was ducking my head, so I put in different mods. I could of gone to a third set of mods, but left it as it was. With the easy adjustments of the Kure in 1/4" increments, I was able to perfect it by trying a bunch of different lengths (closest bow shop is 3 hours from me). I will say that draw length can change with release though, and if you are not switching back and forth, it is fine to not have the releases be coordinated. If your index release sites further forward in your hand the a thumb release (do to neck of release, strap fit, etc.) it will be shorter.
Thanks for all the help. We will see how accurate Archer's Advantage is.
