Spikes and Buttons breeding

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I am NOT a whitetail junky or fanatic. But I do shoot them and hunt them. Wanted to ask a general question. This north Idaho and eastern Washington.

I live rural and have 10-15 deer in the yard nightly. We have some funky genetics. Lots of right sides are under developed or melted. And it's on many bucks. Not like an isolated injury causing deformities. Several have f'd up rights.

The most aggressive bucks running the does.....don't even have visible antlers. Had a button chasing deer all over for hours. I would guess he's breeding them?

Same with a melted horn spike. He's pushing does all week.

Wasn't until last night we had a Gagger buck mixed in. He wasn't pushing anyone around. He was lurking outside the group. He showed up out of nowhere. Never say him until three days ago.

Hunting northern Idaho last night. I've seen two shooter bucks in two weeks. I couldn't get on either of them. Here and gone over 1000 yards in a few minutes. Never stopped. Same spot yesterday I saw 4 different bucks. Two were spikes...tongues hanging out their mouths and does' mouths. The other two cruising and pushing were forks.

Do these bucks get to breed? Or is there a Gagger hanging out somewhere kicking their ass before they can mount a doe?

I obviously know about zero on true rut cycles....only third week of November in my area....shit gets real
 

Rich M

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Any buck a doe will stand still for will mount a doe.

It is all the same genetics - that little spike might be a big 10 pt in 4 years. Plus the does provide 50% of the genetics too.
 

BBob

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In Coues deer land the small bucks run around and harass does all the time. The big boys show up when the doe is ready and run the little guys off. Do the little guys get a chance to breed? Of course they get some but they’re dumb and chase after the does a lot of the time when they’re not fully in estrus. The big boys tend to be a little smarter and play it a little safer and show up when it’s actually go time. I’ve watched big bucks leave a doe for the day to go off and hide and come back to that doe later in the evening.
 
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