Soooo I’m thinking about .243- few questions

[atmat]

Leaning the 6cm side right now though… just wish there were more in production (tikka I’m looking at you) I could sacrifice an savage action and re barrel but… it’s a savage action…

Buy a shot out tikka and rebarrel. Done.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Buy a shot out tikka and rebarrel. Done.

This is my current trajectory

 

[Lawnboi]

I know you said no, but I had a 10 twist 243, 90g eldx did fine, and likely would for you.

6 creed is the answer, honestly in 20 years I bet you see more 6 creed ammo than 243.

Same recoil, better ballistics, premium load options. Even at 400 yards I’ll take all the wind bucking ability it will give me, especially when there is really no downside against the 243.

You seem like a kind of guy who would probably like a seeking Havak element

 

[Hnthrdr]

Buy a shot out tikka and rebarrel. Done.

Any clue where I can find a shot out tikka?

 

[Wyo_hntr]

Buy a shot out tikka and rebarrel. Done.

Or just buy a 6.5 creed tikka and take the barrel off. Shoot out the 6cm then spin the 6.5 back on if you want.

That's what I did.

 

[BjornF16]

Yes. Because I have to look everything up and was not aware of that until today, https://arxiv.org/pdf/1410.5737#:~:text=The composite of the lead,same twist rate and conditions.

That’s the article.

Also explains why a 9.5” twist 7 RM can stabilize a 180 ELD-M and a 11” twist .300 mag can stabilize a 208 ELD-M (assuming twist rate is accurate)

 

[ljalberta]

When I look up the 95 TMK it’s says don’t use for hunting- is that “old school” concern on these type of bullets?

Yes. It will kill much better than many bullets labelled for hunting.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Gordon reloading tool (for what it’s worth) shows more like 50fps/inch cutting back a 243 from say 22.5 to 18.5” when I looked, IE 200fps. But all ears of someone has true experience.

The 80gr ttsx has worked well so far in a 1:10 22.5” Tikka for my kids and I.

 

[handwerk]

I'm a fan of the Barnes 95 LRX, it works well in my 8 twist model 70 (rebarreled), not sure though how they'd do in a 1/10.

 

[TN2shot07]

My wife has been shooting the factory Barnes stuff for 2-3 years, haven’t seen anything more accurate in the rifle. No issues other than a lack of blood which seems to be fairly common with the Barnes. If you like the high shoulder shot I’m not sure there’s a better choice

Reading through the 223 & 6mm threads I’m leaning toward seeing what it will do with eldx & the Nosler bts in the off season.

 

[rbaney]

Well I shoot a re-barreled Ruger M77 22" 1/10 twist with factory 95 gr ballistic tip Nosler with great accuracy here in the Mountains of PA. I like the 243 great caliber I hand load another with 85 grain Sierra HPBT and those are devastating on white tail. Unfortunately not available from Sierra at this time. Either 243 Win or 6Cm you really cannot go wrong... also the 6mm Remington is another great cartridge.

 

[jazz3ring]

Does anyone have any on game experience with the 95 grain Berger Hybrid Hunters in 243? I’m wondering about the terminal performance of them?

My daughters have harvested several whitetails with 80 grain TTSX and 95 grain SST’s. All shots have been double lung hits inside of 50 yards. All deer have been recovered drama free but they typically run 50-100 yards before expiring with adequate blood to follow.

I’m wondering if the Berger’s might result in shorter tracking jobs on double lung hits with shots inside of 100 yards?

 

[Luked]

I have an old Rem700 in 243 that loves the Norma 100gr. Shoots very small groups.
I have not checked it at any distance yet or ran it through the Chrono for speeds.
But I would have zero issues with using it for deer and antelope size game.

 

[Tmac]

Out of a 243 we’ve had good results with 100 gr cup and core bullets on cow elk. All under 300 and broadside placements. Rem core-lokts and the like.

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

The 90 Accubond should stabilize fine in a 10 twist. When Nosler launched that bullet, the 10 twist 243 was probably the most common 6mm available, so I am thinking they put the bullet at 90 grains to account for that.

The trend on this forum is toward more frangible tipped bullets. That doesn't mean that old school cup and core and bonded bullets don't kill with authority. A 95 grain Partition will turn heart and lungs into jelly.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I hunted with a guy running a 243 last week and it has me intrigued. What is the recoil on one of those like? I assume it is somewhere in between a 7.62x 39 and 223 but not sure which end of the spectrum it is closer to.

 

[atmat]

I hunted with a guy running a 243 last week and it has me intrigued. What is the recoil on one of those like? I assume it is somewhere in between a 7.62x 39 and 223 but not sure which end of the spectrum it is closer to.

Suppressed, my 6creed kicks less than my 223 unsuppressed.

 

[mtwarden]

I hunted with a guy running a 243 last week and it has me intrigued. What is the recoil on one of those like? I assume it is somewhere in between a 7.62x 39 and 223 but not sure which end of the spectrum it is closer to.

My experience is clouded by 30 some years, but that little 788 .243 (with a solid butt plate) didn't kick at all- of course I'm basing that on shooting a shooting a pretty light .30-06 mostly

 

[mtwarden]

The 90 Accubond should stabilize fine in a 10 twist. When Nosler launched that bullet, the 10 twist 243 was probably the most common 6mm available, so I am thinking they put the bullet at 90 grains to account for that.

The trend on this forum is toward more frangible tipped bullets. That doesn't mean that old school cup and core and bonded bullets don't kill with authority. A 95 grain Partition will turn heart and lungs into jelly.

Thanks! Yeah I've had such good luck w/ Accubonds, hate to give up on them- at least w/o trying them.

 

[Wacko]

The 95 grain LRX needs a 1/8" twist, the 95 TMK needs a 1/8" twist - both according to the manufacturers.

The 90 grain Accubond will work fine.

The 90 grain eld-x might be softer than you want.

I like the 95 grain ballistic tip the best. Have taken elk and deer with it. I think it fits your needs perfectly. Also the winchester factory loaded 95 grain ballistic silvertip is the same bullet. I have seen that available.

There are others - partitions, fusions, ttsx, sst....whatever you feel comfortable with.