So Ulmer got me thinking...

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Look at it this way...Randy can take his setup with NO stabilizer and out shoot all of us with any stabilizer we want..lol
 

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Not only that when in the backcountry I throw my bow over my shoulder quite frequently and have the stab in front of my chest facing down. It is very comfortable to carry it this way and the longer stab makes it a bonus, the bow just about sits there on my shoulder perfect.
Exactly how I carry my bow. If I'm wearing the right pack, I hardly need to hang onto it with my hand, it locks right in.

For me a Stab is easily worth the weight, even my heavy B-stinger. If I was that desperate to cut weight, I'd wear my 5 fingers instead of my Kennetreks. Not anywhere near that desperate. :)
 

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I shoot a light bow so I can run heavy accessories. Currently, I'm shooting a DNA with a doinker tactical, tight spot quiver and a Hogg father.

Also if you closely read the field and stream article the test was done with a "small, hunting style stabilizer." I'm guessing something like a Sims s-coil and if you read the caption just below they say they tried again with a doinker dish and a 10" bee stinger and they "both shot markedly better."
 
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With those bows IMO you will have a far better hold with a stab. I chose the Spyder 30 this year and played around without a stab and saw long range my overall groups increased in size. I went back to a 10" Fuse Blade stab and even added 2 oz of weight to it. Holds very well and can hold some very good groupings at 100 yards 6-7" pretty regularly. I can not hold those same groups without a stab. Not only that when in the backcountry I throw my bow over my shoulder quite frequently and have the stab in front of my chest facing down. It is very comfortable to carry it this way and the longer stab makes it a bonus, the bow just about sits there on my shoulder perfect.

You don't have to convince me because I like a certain amount of weight. I will say that I am not shooting game at 100 yards but if a person can reliably shoot a very light setup at 60, then it might be an option with merit - sort of like saving 5lbs on a pack.
 

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You don't have to convince me because I like a certain amount of weight. I will say that I am not shooting game at 100 yards but if a person can reliably shoot a very light setup at 60, then it might be an option with merit - sort of like saving 5lbs on a pack.

It's all about accuracy for me and with those bows I feel a stab is needed. I have went back and forth with a lot a different bows and by far a good stab yields the best results IMO. I generally don't shoot anything less than a 10" and find anything less does not benefit from an accuracy standpoint
 

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ive shot without mine and not noticed an loss in accuracy but mentally i didnt like it shooting without it. Guess old habits are hard to brake
 
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What exactly did Ulmer do that got you thinking? I am assuming a bow with no stab. Do you have a link that states this? I have gone smaller too. I went with the Fuse Carbon Blade Sidekick this year. I really like how it adds to the already offset Hoyt risers but it is a touch heavy (to which I agree with stability). It also makes carrying the bow from the grip nice as the stab isn't in the way for carrying either left or right-handed.
 
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What exactly did Ulmer do that got you thinking? I am assuming a bow with no stab. Do you have a link that states this? I have gone smaller too. I went with the Fuse Carbon Blade Sidekick this year. I really like how it adds to the already offset Hoyt risers but it is a touch heavy (to which I agree with stability). It also makes carrying the bow from the grip nice as the stab isn't in the way for carrying either left or right-handed.

His little snippet in the Bowhunter TV show.
 
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I must add it means going to a shorter a2a and I simply prefer 34+ like my K&K Vindicator.
 
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