Single pin vs multi pin slider

[Jake Leibke]

As the title states.... I currently have a 4 pin slider thinking of trying a single....... what say you?

 

[Solitude]

Why are you looking at changing? Clutter? I switched from a 4 pin to a 3 pin and it made a huge difference for my eyes. I personally like having 3 pins @ 30, 40 & 50 and dial in for anything further. The single pin (other than the trick pin system) leaves me nervous as I am sure I would have a P&Y bull standing there looking at me and with my luck the darn single pin would be 20+ yards off!

 

[Jtelarkin08]

Why are you looking at changing? Clutter? I switched from a 4 pin to a 3 pin and it made a huge difference for my eyes. I personally like having 3 pins @ 30, 40 & 50 and dial in for anything further. The single pin (other than the trick pin system) leaves me nervous as I am sure I would have a P&Y bull standing there looking at me and with my luck the darn single pin would be 20+ yards off!

I am having this same issue right now. I have a 3 pin slider that I really like. But I am considering using a single pin. But as you say I worry I will be way off and have a bull starring at me. I may just go with my 3 pin slider for anything other than whitetail

 

[OR Archer]

Multi pin all the way. I dont want a bull to come running in and have to fiddle with my sight when I could just pull up and take the shot.

 

[dreamingbig]

I was thinking about getting a single pin to mess around with for fun and long distance practice. Sticking with my 5 pin spot hogg for hunting though.

 

[squeekieslayer]

1.... if shooting a slider, shoot a slider. If you want multiple pins, why mess with the slider's extra weight and more moving parts if you are not going to use it? get a 7 pin snoot to 80 yards... should be more than enough for hunting.

The advantage of the slider is single pin simplicity. If you practice, 1 pin out to 45 yards is SIMPLE without moving the pin at all. If it is further than that and you dont have the time take 1 second to adjust the pin, you probably shouldnt be shooting that far anyway.

I am not saying one is better than another... different strokes for different folks. I have just never understood the 5 and 7 pin slider thing. 3.... maybe. I think more people would be better off with something like the g5 with only 1 moving pin.

Joe

 

[littlebuf]

I would say there's a real big difference between a 3 pin slider and a 7 pin sight. Just a touch more clutter in that 7 pin. A 3 pin I say give you more accurate pins out to 45-50 than just the single. 30-40-50 then your sliding after that.

 

[Screamrider]

I'm a bit in the same dilemma, but was forced into a solution. I was using a 5 pin MBG fixed sight the past year and wanted to try a slider. I decided to go with a CBE tek hybrid, custom, 4 pin slider. Well, 6 weeks after placing my order and getting the run around I cancelled. In the mean time, I foolishly sold my fixed pin MBG and was sight-less. I then ordered a single pin MBG ascent ambush and now I'm hooked. I absolutely love the lack of clutter and the single pin simplicity. Still undecided for hunting, but I think I will try the "trick pin" system and practice with it for the next few months. As of now I'm really not wanting additional pins in my sight picture. Just my 2 cents.

 

[squeekieslayer]

I would say there's a real big difference between a 3 pin slider and a 7 pin sight. Just a touch more clutter in that 7 pin. A 3 pin I say give you more accurate pins out to 45-50 than just the single. 30-40-50 then your sliding after that.

I agree, 3 is workable, but i see lots of 5 and 7 sliders. My theory is that you are going to have to learn to hold over or under depending on yardage even with a fixed pin. It may be easier, but you still have to practice. I do not use the "trick" pin system, but I set my yardage at 35. I am 3.5 high at 20 and 4.5 low at 40. OUt to 45 I am bout 9 inches low and at 50 I am 15.5 ish.... I dial if i can, but i can keep them in an elk/deer vital from 10-45 yards with barely any adjustment with the one pin.

The argument against it is that what if the animal moves once at full draw. This is my concern as well, but i am hoping that most likely it will not move more than i can compensate for without letting down... but it is a very valid argument.

the reason i dont like to add more pins, is that if i pick one to be the slider, and it moves i just feel like there might be a lot of confision.

I have taken a dab of white paint and put it on my up pin where i need to hold for 45 yards. That way i have some reference for gapping, but not a pin that will confuse me once i get to sliding.

I understand there are some definate risks to shooting a 1 pin slider, but after 5 years and tons of practice, i feel confident.

 

[squeekieslayer]

This reminds me of my biggest gripe with single pin sliders.... they are NOT for those that decide to shoot their bow in august to warm up before the season. They take way way more practice to get proficient with than a multi pin sight.

The problem is that the misconception is the exact opposite. Many feel that all they have to do is establish a 20 and 50 yard mark, plug in the computer, and they are set to hunt out to 100+ yards without practice because the have the mark.

It takes very very little error in either of the two marks to throw the tape off drastically at 80+ yards. Garbage in garbage out.

Joe

 

[MattB]

I shot fixed multi-pin sight for years, went to a 1 pin slider for a few years, and went back to a fixed multi-pin. I just did not think the precision a single pin provided was worth the practical disadvantages that I faced in the field. A 3 pin slider would be a fair compramise, but still not ideal. I am not one for shooting much more than 60 yards though, so I am probably not a person who could maximize the single pin slider benefit.

 

[Buglebrush]

I have found that in actual hunting situation it is far easier for me to concentrate with just a single pin. I set it at 35 yards and never touch it. It is easier for me to pick my spot and concentrate on the yardage. If you shoot a single pin a lot it becomes second nature to adjust your hold to different distances. That being said, in the jungle I hunt it is rare to shoot beyond 45 yards anyhow. My 2 cents

 

[lintond]

I have been trying the MGB single pin ascent this spring. My idea is to set it at 30 and then also make a tape/white out mark on the pin for 40 yds. Then if it is 45+ I plan to dial the distance. I think it's important to practice hold overs for different distances. Say you set it at 50 and the bull walks to 60.

 

[Craig Van Arsdale]

I think a Multi pin slider is better for hunting. I've used both and really like a single pin and got good enough with it that I knew where to aim without adjusting it but I came closer to losing a couple animals (never did though) using a single pin than I had with a Multi pin. Last year I hunted with a four pin slider this year both setups are 5 pin sliders.

 

[Beastmode]

I am going to a 5 pin slider this year. Having as many options as possible is why I did this. To practice at longer distances it is a must to have a slider. I don't want to have to dial anything in a hunting situation unless it is to put another arrow in something. In that case I would shoot farther than what my 5 pin can help me reach. I also ordered my bottom pin in .010 for my slider. Helps at longer distances and helps to not get confused on which pin is your slider.

 

[boom]

This reminds me of my biggest gripe with single pin sliders.... they are NOT for those that decide to shoot their bow in august to warm up before the season. They take way way more practice to get proficient with than a multi pin sight.

The problem is that the misconception is the exact opposite. Many feel that all they have to do is establish a 20 and 50 yard mark, plug in the computer, and they are set to hunt out to 100+ yards without practice because the have the mark.

It takes very very little error in either of the two marks to throw the tape off drastically at 80+ yards. Garbage in garbage out.

Joe

like!

I taped on a blank tape and marked each distance with a sharpie. I then went and found a pre printed tape. I was surprised to find a tape that matched at each range.

I like my 3 pin with slider. I am new with it so I have sent several arrow way over the target. I new routine needs to be burned into my brain.

 

[Evan Williams]

Personally I have been running a 3 pin slider for 2 yrs now and have played with 5 and also a single. Right now I'm back to my single. I ha e confidence in the Trick Pin system as I played a bit last year with it and gonna give it another try ;-)

 

[Jake Leibke]

Thanks for the replies everyone. Currently I have a 4 pin slider but want to try to declutter..... Last year only 1 animal I shot was over 40 yards and I think I would have had time to adjust.
I think I am going to try a single pin and see how it goes.

 

[horseshoe]

After my first elk hunt I seriously reconsidered everything about my bow set-up. This occurred because of the fast action of an elk running to a call, and you being on the ground. For the sight, I have run a single pin for years. but decided to try the 5 or 7 fixed pin again. Didn't work! My eyes are too old, all those pins are one big blur!

On the good side, a single pin for me has been extremely accurate. Also, I do call while whitetail hunting, and shot my biggest at 10 yds with my sight set at 35 yds when that buck showed up very quickly! When moving I usually set it at 28-35 yds and practice to get a good idea of the hold over/under in the event I don't have time to adjust. And, like already said, Usually the longer shots provide plenty of time to check yardage and set the pin.

 

[Tilzbow]

I am going to a 5 pin slider this year. Having as many options as possible is why I did this. To practice at longer distances it is a must to have a slider. I don't want to have to dial anything in a hunting situation unless it is to put another arrow in something. In that case I would shoot farther than what my 5 pin can help me reach. I also ordered my bottom pin in .010 for my slider. Helps at longer distances and helps to not get confused on which pin is your slider.

This is the exact setup I've been using for the past four years and I still really like it. I use the TapPro software for printing tapes for my Spott Hogg and I've had continuous excellent results. I use to take two speeds readings through the chrono, one at 0 yards and the other at 40 yards, but I've found the software is consistently within 1 FPS at 40 so now I take only the 0 yard reading and my tapes are accurate to 120 yards.