SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[Nine Banger]

I’d say it’s pretty safe to assume most guys that have no issues will not vote. I didn’t vote, until today!

#metoo

I have 2. I shot about 960 22-250, and 300 22 creed with one then put it on a 223 when I got an OG. The other one is on a 223 as well; I don't remember if I shot it on bigger stuff.

 

[bradb]

I don’t believe it ever got that high. I remember it being a “big” deal when it went over 10%.

I was watching it very religiously

 

[Q_Sertorius]

The percentage of non-failures versus failures reported here doesn’t really matter. Assuming there are 20,000-30,000 Scythe Ti suppressors in use right now, the number of failures reported here (approximately 50 at the highest count) represents a failure rate higher than such fine products as the Sig P320 (100/3.1 million), Ford Pinto (38/2.1 million), and the ~2007-2014 Remington 700 (2000/1.3 million).

 

[BradArnett]

Im up to 1200 rnds now on mine. Since my post above, 200 have been the 7.5" 300blk w/subs and another 400 on the 16" 223.

Im at 1600 through mine. Put 300 through it on the 16" 223, and 100 on the 21" 6.5cm since I last posted.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Im at 1600 through mine. Put 300 through it on the 16" 223, and 100 on the 21" 6.5cm since I last posted.

Mine is getting up there too, I only shoot it on the 6.5 creedmoor but it had a handful of 307 and 30-06 through it before the failure reports started showing up.

I’ll take it out tomorrow and put a few rounds through it again.

 

[Falko]

About 300 rounds through it.
100 300PRC hand loads 245gr Berger
200 7PRC About 200 168vld handloads and only 3 155gr federal ternimal Ascent factory loads.

Blew up using the factory federal loads.

No baffle strike just broke at two different welds. Found the front half 75 yards down range.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

About 300 rounds through it.
100 300PRC hand loads 245gr Berger
200 7PRC About 200 168vld handloads and only 3 155gr federal ternimal Ascent factory loads.

Blew up using the factory federal loads.

No baffle strike just broke at two different welds. Found the front half 75 yards down range. View attachment 951168

I’m curious to hear whether they replace it since you used so many hand loads.

 

[MagnumHntr]

I’m curious to hear whether they replace it since you used so many hand loads.

Why would that matter?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Why would that matter?

Because the Scythe warranty says not to use hand loaded ammunition. When I called Silencer Co and asked about this provision, they told me that any use of hand loads would void the warranty.

 

[Falko]

About 300 rounds through it.
100 300PRC hand loads 245gr Berger
200 7PRC About 200 168vld handloads and only 3 155gr federal ternimal Ascent factory loads.

Blew up using the factory federal loads.

No baffle strike just broke at two different welds. Count the front half 75 yards down range. View attachment 951168

Because the Scythe warranty says not to use hand loaded ammunition. When I called Silencer Co and asked about this provision, they told me that any use of hand loads would void the warranty.

View attachment 951175

“improper” lol. It doesn’t say “not” to use hand loads.

 

[waspocrew]

Because the Scythe warranty says not to use hand loaded ammunition. When I called Silencer Co and asked about this provision, they told me that any use of hand loads would void the warranty.

View attachment 951175

You’ll see that in most firearms owners manuals as well.

 

[JRay]

Thanks for pointing out the warranty specifics. I wonder what’s considered improper.

A few dozen more rounds through my scythe with creedmoor and prc chamberings and it’s still in one piece…

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Thanks for pointing out the warranty specifics. I wonder what’s considered improper.

A few dozen more rounds through my scythe with creedmoor and prc chamberings and it’s still in one piece…

Pro tip, if you ever have any firearm warranty things going on, never mention hand loading. It's all factory ammo. even if you need to go out, buy a box, shoot a few off.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Thanks for pointing out the warranty specifics. I wonder what’s considered improper.

Shooting any ammo through it apparently. Failure = labeled as user abuse so far, the details haven't seemed to matter.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

About 300 rounds through it.
100 300PRC hand loads 245gr Berger
200 7PRC About 200 168vld handloads and only 3 155gr federal ternimal Ascent factory loads.

Blew up using the factory federal loads.

No baffle strike just broke at two different welds. Count the front half 75 yards down range. View attachment 951168

“improper” lol. It doesn’t say “not” to use hand loads.

The way it is written, "improper" modifies everything inside the quote. That is how a court would almost certainly interpret it. That is how Silencer Co is currently defending lawsuits on this issue. And I specifically asked Silencer Co about this during my phone conversation with them and they stated that all hand loaded ammunition use is "improper" under the warranty. So, try to quibble all you want, just understand that there isn't enough ambiguity in the way it is written for your argument to fly.

My bet is that Silencer Co will simply repair the OP's can and send it back to him, unless he threatens to sue them or makes a big deal out of using handloads. I'd stick to the truth, "I was shooting factory loaded ammunition when it blew up."

 

[brianwesson1]

When mine blew up I was never asked by SiCo if it was factory or hand loaded ammo.


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[Q_Sertorius]

You’ll see that in most firearms owners manuals as well.

Yes, but it never matters for most firearms. Most modern firearms are well-made - or at least made to be safe barring extreme abuse. It matters a great deal for the Scythe because it is not made to be safe enough for normal use.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

. It matters a great deal for the Scythe because it is not made to be safe enough for normal use.

It definitely is made to be safe for normal use, and marketed as such. The entire point is that it categorically is NOT living up to what it is designed to be, even when shot exclusively with non magnum, factory, ammunition.
There’s no argument for them at all. Their suppressor is failing miserably in what it was intended for.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

The entire point is that it categorically is NOT living up to what it is designed to be, even when shot exclusively with non magnum, factory, ammunition.
There’s no argument for them at all. Their suppressor is failing miserably in what it was intended for.

Agreed. The Scythe Ti is an unsafe product. It may be *intended* to be safe for normal use, but it is not *made* to be safe for normal use. As such, if a user uses it, they had damned sure use it within parameters that will hold up under oath in court.

 

[mtwarden]

And on it goes….