I just want to hear from an apolitical medical scientist. Someone who understands how the vaccine works was involved in development. There is a risk of taking it given the short time to test. There is a risk of catching COVID, and the impact of that varies tremendously.
Signed up for the Covid Zombie Juice.....
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Numbers don’t confuse me, but your line of reasoning has me pretty baffled.
Eh...I've reached the point with all of them that- if they said the sky was blue i would have too step outside and look. Not necessarily a conspiracy guy. I seriously don't believe not one thing any of em have to say. There's even lots of differing views in medical folks. Pfizer and moderna don't exactly breed confidence either. Whose numbers are right? Whose research/studies/data is factual and whose is made up?
I honestly don't know. What I do know is the decade of experience I had working for the government. I also know the 16 yrs experience I've had in dealing with the VA. None of which breeds anything even remotely close to confidence in our government being able to accomplish anything more then nothing.
I got tired of being told what was going on and started looking for myself. Pretty crazy who owns what and all that.
Not saying it’s right or wrong but it’s the reality and has been for a long time.
I for one would feel better about taking the vaccine if both Trump’s team and Biden’s team got it.
Also if Pfizer’s execs would get it as well.
At end of day more vaccines=more protection and likely less spread=more re-openings and we can go back to normal.
Google “Paul Offit podcast” he’s been on a few of them this last month. Heavily involved with the measles vaccine and understands the process in depth.
Vaccine Expert Paul Offit Answers Our Burning COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
The director of CHOP’s Vaccine Education Center talks side-effect anxiety, distribution timelines, and why there’s just no arguing with anti-vaxxers.
www.phillymag.com
seldomseensmith
WKR
I don't understand why someone else as in a politician or exec taking it would build confidence. Do you believe that they know there are issues with it and are deciding not to tell the public? What evil plan would that support? Just selling drugs? I don't follow.
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Both my GF and I have had it. I had very mild symptoms and she was asymptomatic (only found out because she had the antibodies from giving blood). My mom currently has it and had a rougher go (body aches, couldnt get of the couch, fatigue). She ended up in the hospital due to a prolonged case of A-Fib (not caused by the Covid, she has a history of it and believe it was brought on by dehydration). The trip to the ER for her was precautionary as she didnt want to risk the chance of throwing a clot. For reference, my mom is early 60s, GF is late 20s and I am early 30s.
Both my mom and GF work in healthcare so they will both be getting it. I believe my GF was slated to get it today. I will have to ask her how it went. At first she was against getting it but after talking to her overseeing Doc who has been in in medicine either researching or practicing for over 30 yrs, she decided to get it. As for me, I am going to rely on my antibodies for now and see how the next few months play out.
All I know is I am going to have to start taking a hard look at the GF, gotta make sure her skin isnt starting to rot and sluff off
Both my mom and GF work in healthcare so they will both be getting it. I believe my GF was slated to get it today. I will have to ask her how it went. At first she was against getting it but after talking to her overseeing Doc who has been in in medicine either researching or practicing for over 30 yrs, she decided to get it. As for me, I am going to rely on my antibodies for now and see how the next few months play out.
All I know is I am going to have to start taking a hard look at the GF, gotta make sure her skin isnt starting to rot and sluff off
I’m likely getting it regardless. But there are likely 100s of thousands of Americans that don’t feel comfortable with taking the vaccine. I think it would help a lot of people to get comfortable with it if high level people in Government and others in positions of power would take it to show some leadership. Especially Pharma players, if everyone is so confident in it then get it first, back your own product.
I think you are drastically overestimating the general populations ability to critically think and decide for themselves. Especially with rampant misinformation on all venues of media running around.
jmez
WKR
Pfiizer has a bit of a track record in knowing there are significant problems with a product, burying the data and releasing it anyway. Pfizer, like the rest of these companies is a corporation. Their primary goal is to maximize profits. They just happen to do that by selling pharmaceuticals. Regardless of what they say, they are far more concerned with their bottom line than with your health.
It isn't so much the gvmnt in this instance, but the folks looking to make billions of dollars on a product.
It isn't so much the gvmnt in this instance, but the folks looking to make billions of dollars on a product.
All I know is I am going to have to start taking a hard look at the GF, gotta make sure her skin isnt starting to rot and sluff off
If she starts chewing on you later be sure to login to Rokslide so we can know
If she starts chewing on you later be sure to login to Rokslide so we can know
This thread is about sharing information. Especially when our loved ones begin to turn.
If the CEO and company of Pfizer got vaccinated, that would be some good leadership. If the vaccine is what you say it is, prove you are confident in it even though you might not need it because they can isolate and have $$ to get top level healthcare.
Godspeed for all you guys. I think this is the beginning of the end of this shitshow.
Thanks to all you medical workers, frontliners and essential employees!
My kids aren't 16 even if they were they wouldn't be the guinea pigs for this.
seldomseensmith
WKR
No no no. You said YOU would feel better. I understand the broader picture regarding my question. I'm asking why YOU would feel better if they took it? Not trying to be rude and I apologize if it comes off that way. I think we all need to evaluate the choice for ourselves and not pressure each other. Just wondering.
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FatCampzWife
Lil-Rokslider
Been watching this thread, as I'm curious about everyone's thoughts. I work with many elite college athletes, many of which tested positive for covid early this fall. Many were asymptomatic, some had mild symptoms, others were dogged by nasty respiratory stuff. All recovered. Fast forward 2-3 months, and several of these once healthy, envy of everyone who looked at them 20-somethings now get tired just doing laundry, & are going to specialists trying to figure out what's wrong. The common thread among them is a prior positive covid test.
Just because you had it once, & it wasn't that bad, means absolutely nothing.
As far as I know (I could be wrong), the vaccine was made using the same technology as the Zika vaccine...they just modified the target protein, which makes me a tad more confident in the vaccine than I would be otherwise.
Just because you had it once, & it wasn't that bad, means absolutely nothing.
As far as I know (I could be wrong), the vaccine was made using the same technology as the Zika vaccine...they just modified the target protein, which makes me a tad more confident in the vaccine than I would be otherwise.
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