Sig Cross Hype

[z987k]

Also the 1

The BIG question is what powder are they using. Stuffing a cm case full of standard powders used today won't hit 80k I don't think. So I'm guessing the powder will be pretty efin hot.

Someone ran it through quickload and with a 7mm-08AI case, which is really close to what the fury is, a case full of something with a pretty quick burn rate made 80k.

 

[Nomosendero]

Someone ran it through quickload and with a 7mm-08AI case, which is really close to what the fury is, a case full of something with a pretty quick burn rate made 80k.

I bet the case would not fare well!

 

[z987k]

I bet the case would not fare well!

That's the whole idea with the new case. A normal case would not.

 

[Nomosendero]

Ah Yea, I am aware of that!
I read about it back when it was introduced, old news now.

 

[swavescatter]

Well, it looks like Q is out of the running for a lightweight hunting rig. I've heard their customer service was bad, but this is inexcusable if true:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/s9uhfx

Still side-eyeing the Reaper while waiting for Sig's Cross 2.0 offerings. Guaranteed sub-MOA in 6.5 PRC and sign me up...

 

[bobinmi]

They offer this in a short magnum and I am totally on board. Till then, I think its a really cool little package that doesn't fit any holes in my current arsenal besides want. I'm not wealthy enough to buy things that are purely wants.

 

[silasbowhunter]

They offer this in a short magnum and I am totally on board. Till then, I think its a really cool little package that doesn't fit any holes in my current arsenal besides want. I'm not wealthy enough to buy things that are purely wants.

I agree. This in a 6.5prc or 300wsm would be awesome.


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[Lefty c]

Did you discuss this with Sig? Curious what ammo/bullets/powder you tried, and how many rounds? My cross really settled in at about 120 rounds but I never struggled to keep "groups" tight.

Was that 10 round groups you were measuring?

Hostile1
I tried different factory loads as well as the same loads in my sons Ruger. Used H4350 accubond LR and Berger 140. Consistent 5 shot groups with any Ammo 1 1/2-2". Almost always 2 fliers that would open the group up.

I did speak with sig and they suggested more shooting cleaning.

The rifle was sold with 200+ rounds through it.


Liked the rifle but had no confidence in it.

Lety

 

[chutinlead]

I just got mine back from SIG. At some point the back of the bolt lugs had galled this fall while out hunting, probably due to some dirt/grit that blew into the action. They replaced the barrel and the bolt with brand new and shipped it back at no cost to me.

Only problem is I find myself dragging my feet to test my old load in it/start new load development and wonder if I wouldn't be ahead to cut my losses and sell it now.

 

[QuackAttack]

This would be a game changer in a WSM…but until then, it’s meh.

 

[bruceleroy]

I have not been able to find ANY loads that will perform consistently, to include match factory ammo. I called and asked them what the process was to check it and I was told they basically strap it down and fire at 25 yards.
We are talking again tomorrow because that is 100% unacceptable. I asked for an actual tech to call me so they could verify testing at 100 yards minimum.

 

[mt100gr.]

I have not been able to find ANY loads that will perform consistently, to include match factory ammo. I called and asked them what the process was to check it and I was told they basically strap it down and fire at 25 yards.
We are talking again tomorrow because that is 100% unacceptable. I asked for an actual tech to call me so they could verify testing at 100 yards minimum.

I never intended to shoot factory ammo in mine, but I did burn up a fair bit getting a feel for the rifle and getting some rounds thru it. I wasn't impressed with the accuracy of any factory ammo I tried - and I agree, that is unacceptable.

I fiddled for a while with handloads, but once I got close to where it wanted to be, it shined brightly.

Be sure to follow up with how it goes on the phone with Sig.

 

[z987k]

This would be a game changer in a WSM…but until then, it’s meh.

So... the 277 fury?

 

[QuackAttack]

So... the 277 fury?

Not really. Super limited ammo available, proprietary case with steel rim, 80 k psi chamber pressure…and still slower than a 270 weatherby.

The fury isn’t bringing anything new to the table beyond a more complex way to do the same thing IMO.

 

[Brianc74]

Anyone see a Cross in the 277 fury yet?

 

[z987k]

Not really. Super limited ammo available, proprietary case with steel rim, 80 k psi chamber pressure…and still slower than a 270 weatherby.

The fury isn’t bringing anything new to the table beyond a more complex way to do the same thing IMO.

If you really want a 270wsm, there's a lot of them out there. And you can build one to your heart's desire, even for a similar price on a chassis.
Or, the 7wsm/saum, since there's still better bullets in 284 than 277.

 

[bobinmi]

I've been thinking about this rifle a lot lately. For my personal uses everything will hinge on whether the .277 fury is a flop or they start making other options with the same technology. 3k from a 140 grain bullet is not special until its coming from a 16 inch barrel.

 

[QuackAttack]

If you really want a 270wsm, there's a lot of them out there. And you can build one to your heart's desire, even for a similar price on a chassis.
Or, the 7wsm/saum, since there's still better bullets in 284 than 277.

i have it in my head…a defiance Ti CRF action, Longrifles Inc super fluted barrel to get to carbon wrapped weight equivalent, Geissele MK 13 trigger, XLR Chassis in Magnesium…


But I keep coming back to normal rifles like a model 70 featherweight and doing the math on dropping it into a McM stock and going hunting.

Thus f…..the model 70 gets it done.

 

[Justincaseholsters]

I agree. This in a 6.5prc or 300wsm would be awesome.


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Med length Action would be even better

 

[silasbowhunter]

Med length Action would be even better

They’d probably not do that I would guess since they would have to machine brand new. Be damn nice!


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