Shoot2Hunt University

[Formidilosus]

I thought 6x42 was all that was needed because of the 7mm exit pupil?

FOV and eyebox tend to go up with larger objectives.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

To add to the above…. As a spotter I want the shooter see as many of the terrain features as possible as I’m guiding them into an animal.

I want to give them a starting point and then use terrain features and distances to guide them onto the target. Enough “zoom” to identify said features is generally 4x and above but 6-8X is a sweet spot for most Western big game hunting in big terrain.

The more you zoom in and are able to better identify terrain features, the more you lose FOV which also plays a huge role in being able to find and identify terrain features.

This is why a 6x50 for guns with a terminal range of 600ish yards and in and an 8x50 for guns with a terminal range of 800ish yards and in are what I’ve been asking for, for years.

The answer is the same “low demand” “won’t sell”. Which I understand.

Anyway, a topic for another thread for sure.

 

[Moccasin]

A FFP SWFA, fixed power, or maven is the easy answer for the course.

That said, I had a NXS 2.5-10 SFP mil dot on my trainer for the course. I set it at 6x for the range portion and it became a fixed 10x when we extended ranges. I never thought it lacked. Still, the course is about efficiency in processes and gear. That efficiency makes you fast and accurate in imperfect hunting scenarios. “Perfection is taking away everything that is unnecessary until you get to the point that effectiveness degrades.” The shot process *should* help account for SFP, but we do weird things under stress, and we suck, so make it easy on yourself and eliminate failure points.

 

[Castle Rock]

Just saying. I ain’t walking around with my scope on max magnification. That’s a really good way to miss an opportunity. If you have time, and want to be on 9x at 400, it’s not terrible. But I prefer 6 or 7x. It’s easier to have target panic when zoomed in too much. Plus, at a lower mag, I have better FOV, which gives me a greater chance of being able to see the animal during recoil, and I can see other game that surround the one I’m shooting

How do you find vitals on a running deer at 25 yards on 8x? You’re only gonna see fur in the scope

My 3-9 super chicken has never left 9x since I have bought it, and it’s my main hunting scope that’s been on 6 or 7 rifles in 20 years or however long I have had it

 

[mt terry d]

If an animal is running towards me

I let it.

 

[DisplacedHusky]

Would an SWFA 6x limit a student in any way in this course?

 

[PNWGATOR]

Would an SWFA 6x limit a student in any way in this course?

No.

 

[Wprinkle]

Would an SWFA 6x limit a student in any way in this course?

No sir.. Last day we were hitting Moa sized targets well past 1,000 yards on 6x. IIRC day 1 we were told to put our scopes on 6X and dont touch em. Pretty sure mine still haven't left 6X lol Im waiting for permission to move it but really don't have a need to.

 

[mt terry d]

Had an opportunity today. Spooked out some does and caught a glimpse through the trees of a buck going with them. Didn't get a good look and ran over to a spot I figured I would be able to see them.
They were still running at about 300 yards but it was fairly open and I thought I might get a chance. The buck was just intent on the does.
I tossed my pack on a rock, got prone and they (sort of) stopped on the opposite hillside. I glassed, ranged, and saw he was a shooter. Dialed my elevation, racked one in and just hoped he'd stop in an opening between the trees. Thanks to S2H class and a ton of practice I wasn't all cranked up. I knew if he gave me a chance I'd have him. He gave me just an instant.
440 yards
Pics in the 223 for everything thread.
Thanks again to the S2H crew.

 

[SloppyJ]

Please educate me: why is FFP better?

Because it takes another variable out of the equation. Youre not reliant on max power from a SFP scope or trying to double them if on half power like a couple others I've seen. Its just there and always correct. Only SFP scopes I own are 22s or my son's guns who is 8.

Trust me, I grew up with MOA and SFP scopes. Granted, no one would have ever taken a shot over a couple hundred yards but as a typical southerner taught by my dad and grandpa, if I can come around, anyone can.

 

[Dobermann]

No sir.. Last day we were hitting Moa sized targets well past 1,000 yards on 6x. IIRC day 1 we were told to put our scopes on 6X and dont touch em. Pretty sure mine still haven't left 6X lol Im waiting for permission to move it but really don't have a need to.

@Formidilosus - is @Wprinkle allowed to move his scope off 6x yet?