Shelter- How heavy is too heavy?

[NEFLElkHunter]

I love my Duplex and DupleXL! It is super light and easy to setup and pack up. I use my trekking poles to support it, so I don’t need a frame for it. It is not great in high winds, so cover is important at times.

 

[Backyard]

My BA Flycreek UL2 comes in @ 2-1/2 lbs. has a small footprint, doesn’t condensate, and doesn’t require my trekking poles. If you really want to shed weight, it can be set with just the fly. That would shed another lb off.


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[Backyard]

My BA Flycreek UL2 comes in @ 2-1/2 lbs. has a small footprint, doesn’t condensate, and doesn’t require my trekking poles. If you really want to shed weight, it can be set with just the fly. That would shed another lb off.


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[Grassymike]

SO Silex . Yep a lot like the Gaurdian. I have found the learning curve took awhile. I pitch off the ground always about 6" or a bit more. I use my trekking poles until we set up a semi permanent camp, then cut poles from dead wood. Orient the pitch to prevailing wind so the "doors" open into the wind. Last I usually leave doors halfway open for ventilation. We had 2" of rain in about 18 hours this year and I was fine. My Silex is 1.5# with stakes and cordage.

 

[wind gypsy]

If starting from scratch I’d pick up a tarptent aeon li or stratospire Li.

 

[Pilsner]

You can side sleep in a hammock no problem. Just need to buy a quality one. Hell I’ve even belly slept in mine here and there. Example https://dream-hammock.com/

No YOU can side sleep in a hammock. I have never been able to despite trying a half dozen different hammocks at least. Symmetrical, a-sym, whatever. We even traveled out to Damascus Virginia on the AT for hammock days event to try several. I eventually gave up after buying and selling 3 or 4 set ups and never finding one that I could sleep in. I still have one UL version that we take with us when we use the pack goats as it's a great "camp couch" for sitting in but it's also worthless to me for sleeping. Eno, Warbonnet, several cottage industry hammocks - I feel like I've tried them all.

 

[Reburn]

If starting from scratch I’d pick up a tarptent aeon li or stratospire Li.

What makes you say Stratospire 2 Li vs a durston X-mid pro 2+?

 

[wind gypsy]

What makes you say Stratospire 2 Li vs a durston X-mid pro 2+?

Nothing other than being a long time stratospire user and fan. Havent followed tents too close for a few years, that xmid pro 2+ does look sweet!

 

[Reburn]

Nothing other than being a long time stratospire user and fan. Havent followed tents too close for a few years, that xmid pro 2+ does look sweet!

Being 6'7" I bought it over the stratospire because it was a bit longer on the floor on the diagonal. I analyzed them for days though since they are so close in specs and price.

I havent had a cheance to use it though.

 

[CMF]

Some of those things are easily overcome such as cutting a branch instead of using poles or pitching between trees, which is what I do more often than not.

For rocky areas, you will have similar issues with free standing tents, but it could be worse because that guyline coming loose could snap one of the poles. In those cases, it’s best to use large rocks. Tie a line around a good sized rock and then get a bigger rock and put it in on top of the line.

Was going to say the same things. I use a durston x mid 2, and I often cut sticks or sometimes just tie the ridge to nearby trees or a combination of both.
I'd like to add a DD XMid 2 in Dyneema.

 

[Reburn]

Was going to say the same things. I use a durston x mid 2, and I often cut sticks or sometimes just tie the ridge to nearby trees or a combination of both.
I'd like to add a DD XMid 2 in Dyneema.

Assuming your setting up with trekking poles Durston X-Mid Pro 2+ in DCF without stakes but with the guy lines and otherwise ready to go. 20.81 oz

its lighter then my gossamer gear the one 26.31oz and six moons sky scape trekker 28.22oz

 

[CMF]

Assuming your setting up with trekking poles Durston X-Mid Pro 2+ in DCF without stakes but with the guy lines and otherwise ready to go. 20.81 oz

its lighter then my gossamer gear the one 26.31oz and six moons sky scape trekker 28.22oz

Yea, even my hammock gear tarp and bora bivy ends up at ~18oz. I figure I might as well just go with dcf durston and the easy set up and room. I'm thinking the only benefit of the tarp/bivy is being able to set up it with less than ideal spots.

 

[Reburn]

Yea, even my hammock gear tarp and bora bivy ends up at ~18oz. I figure I might as well just go with dcf durston and the easy set up and room. I'm thinking the only benefit of the tarp/bivy is being able to set up it with less than ideal spots.

I was suprised at how light it was. It is bulky though.

 

[meta_gabbro]

I roll with a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo, which fixes some of your issues but not others. It’s silpoly, 26oz, has a relatively compact footprint, it’s a single vestibule so it’s got plenty of internal volume (similar to the XDome), it’s got a full bathtub floor, and it’s a single-pole pitch (which, granted, only solves half your issue with being able to use poles while it’s up). It’s still a single wall design so you’ll still have condensation issues, but ventilation is good and you can mitigate the usual damp footbox by putting your rain layer over your bag at night. Being dependent on having all stakes firm is a downside, though pitching with rocks can be plenty stable - I had mine pitched with only rocks on a granite slab in the Sierras and it was fine.