Seek outside stove during burn ban?

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Can you use a sleek outside stove during a burn ban in Colorado? Read the rules, kind of grey “approved outdoor wood burning and enclosed heater”.


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I think on USFS you can only use devices with a button. So your jetboil. That was Washington USFS three weeks ago. Dunno if it applies to all states USFs.


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Usually stage one allows for stoves with a spark arrestor , stage 2 is no stoves.

For me, even in stage one, a lot of people freak out if they see smoke in the NF so I will air on the side of caution. I will and have used it .. but it is more of a I will think twice on the need / desire.
 
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Thank you all for the responses. I will just call the Forrest service to see. So disappointed as this would be my first year to try the stove! I will update you all on what I hear.


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I think my stove will work! Here are the requirements:
5ft minimum chimney height
Must have a spark arrestor with a screen opening of 1/4 inch or less.
The lady I spoke with said they allow sheep herders stove and read these specks to me to see if my stove fits the requirements.
 

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I think my stove will work! Here are the requirements:
5ft minimum chimney height
Must have a spark arrestor with a screen opening of 1/4 inch or less.
The lady I spoke with said they allow sheep herders stove and read these specks to me to see if my stove fits the requirements.

It is really dry and warm here, really think through if you need it. Don’t be shocked if other hunters take issue. Also local regulations might be more restricting, things are epically dry here.
 

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It is really dry and warm here, really think through if you need it. Don’t be shocked if other hunters take issue. Also local regulations might be more restricting, things are epically dry here.

This. It’s not really stove weather this year. Might get chilly some nights, but you’ll spend far more time being warm than cold even without a stove.
 
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It is really dry and warm here, really think through if you need it. Don’t be shocked if other hunters take issue. Also local regulations might be more restricting, things are epically dry here.

I will use caution if I do end up needing it. My dad worked for the Forrest service and has fought many fires out west. We use the most extreme caution.

Not trying to cause problems but if the rules allow and it’s safe I will have some heat.


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This. It’s not really stove weather this year. Might get chilly some nights, but you’ll spend far more time being warm than cold even without a stove.

Trying not to make this a bigger deal than it needs to be, I do not plan on using it unless I have to. I hunted for 8 days last year and built a total of one fire. The one fire we made was very small and we made sure every ember was out. FYI you cannot burry embers, they will burn underground so don’t think we just kicked dirt over them. I am a very responsible person and will probably not even use a stove. But a stove is handy to have to knock the chill off on a cold morning (single digits or less). I appreciate the advice, I really do.


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We hunted September right after the big snow storm and we burned our stove every night as we were truck camping. There was a foot of snow by our tent for half of the week and then the melt kept everything moist for the remainder, so we felt zero concern about it.

Regs as you stated were correct as per the forest service and the listed sign at the entry to the forest:
5ft minimum chimney height
spark arrestor with a screen opening of 1/4 inch or less.

Almost any stove will meet that definition.
 

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Were those stove requirements for a stage I or stage II ban?
 
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Were those stove requirements for a stage I or stage II ban?

That is the latest information available. I asked could those restrictions get even more strict and per the forest service employee I spoke with she said no, the rules would stay the same on that. So regardless of stage 1 or 2 it’s allowed in the area I’m hunting.


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Trying not to make this a bigger deal than it needs to be, I do not plan on using it unless I have to. I hunted for 8 days last year and built a total of one fire. The one fire we made was very small and we made sure every ember was out. FYI you cannot burry embers, they will burn underground so don’t think we just kicked dirt over them. I am a very responsible person and will probably not even use a stove. But a stove is handy to have to knock the chill off on a cold morning (single digits or less). I appreciate the advice, I really do.


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Actually, now it’s looking like a snow event on Sunday that will setup very similar to the mid September storm.
 
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I’m not hunting right now. It’ll be late October, so it’s usually stove season. It’ll always be pretty nippy up high that late.


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I spoke with the USFS in Walden yesterday and they gave me different information, that was more in line with what several others above have said. I described the stove, spark arrestor, etc. He was very clear, that if you couldn't turn it off with a switch, button, or knob, it was a no-go.
 
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I spoke with the USFS in Walden yesterday and they gave me different information, that was more in line with what several others above have said. I described the stove, spark arrestor, etc. He was very clear, that if you couldn't turn it off with a switch, button, or knob, it was a no-go.

Idk man, some areas may be different. All I have to say is call the local office to find out. I’m going to be using my stove.
Stage 1 Fire Restrictions on the San Juan National Forest prohibit: IGNITING, BUILDING, MAINTAINING, ATTENDING, OR USING A FIRE (including fires fueled by charcoal or briquettes) outside of a permanent metal or concrete fire pit or grate that the Forest Service has installed and maintained at its developed recreation sites (campgrounds and picnic areas)— except the use of a stove or grill solely fueled by liquid petroleum fuels, or a fully enclosed metal stove, grill, or sheep herder type stove with a chimney at least five feet in length and a mesh screen spark arrestor with a screen opening of ¼ inch or less.


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It all depends on if it’s stage two or stage one. I don’t think the lady I spoke with knew what she was talking about when she said it couldn’t get any stricter. As of August 2020, as far as I know the area I’m in is in stage one until I hear differently.


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