Seek Outside Guardian floorless shelter review ***updated 1/22/23***

[badkneesbro]

It has been covered several times!

It won't be long now. The review is written and I'm doing a few self edits before shipping it off to @Justin Crossley and @robby denning . Stand by.

I knew it! Appreciate ya!

 

[mitchellmountain]

Been looking at this tent for a while, looking forward to the review

 

[Old-Cat]

What was the verdict w respect to the ridge line and dripping condensation?

 

[Josh Boyd]

What was the verdict w respect to the ridge line and dripping condensation?

It’s a non-issue. There are occasional condensation issues but I never had significant dripping from the ridge line. The review should be published any day now.


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[Justin Crossley]

The Guardian review is live!

Seek Outside Guardian Review

 

[Elk Ch@ser]

Thanks! Very informal.

 

[Farmerlentz]

The Guardian review is live!

Seek Outside Guardian Review

Thanks for the review. How would you compare this to the cimarron. I already have a mld duomid for solo use and 6 man tipi for a larger camp. I'm looking for a 2 man shelter that can run early to late season and use a stove when needed. I can't decide between the two. Me and my boy are 6'1" not sure if space is an issue. Thanks

 

[badkneesbro]

Looking forward to this comparison as well and thank you much for all the work you put into this.

 

[Josh Boyd]

Thanks for the review. How would you compare this to the cimarron. I already have a mld duomid for solo use and 6 man tipi for a larger camp. I'm looking for a 2 man shelter that can run early to late season and use a stove when needed. I can't decide between the two. Me and my boy are 6'1" not sure if space is an issue. Thanks

You may be better matched with a Cimarron if both of you are 6'1". You'd fit in the Guardian without a problem but have more elbow room in the Cimarron. If you want to save space and weight in the pack then the Guardian would be a better choice. One last consideration is the use of a stove in a nested shelter...if it might be in your future, buy the Cimarron with a half nest as a stove and nest are not compatible in the Guardian.

 

[Marbles]

Thanks for a great review. I want one, but certainly don't "need" one as I already have a DCF Silex, DCF Cimmaron, and a Redcliff.

 

[Farmerlentz]

Thanks for a great review. I want one, but certainly don't "need" one as I already have a DCF Silex, DCF Cimmaron, and a Redcliff.

How are you liking your dcf cimarron? I hesitated to long on the presale and missed out. Now I'm trying to decide if I should just buy a lite or wait for more dcf

 

[Marbles]

How are you liking your dcf cimarron? I hesitated to long on the presale and missed out. Now I'm trying to decide if I should just buy a lite or wait for more dcf

I really like how the DCF pitches, plus it is lighter than the Guardian. A friend has the lite. The differences are what one would expect between DCF and sil-nylon. I have not ran a stove in my DCF Cimmaron yet, it makes me a touch nervous as all the soft wood up here makes a lot of ash.

For me, if you don't need it soon, I would wait for a DCF. Though, getting the lite will leave a lot of money in the budget for other gear while still giving you a great shelter. I justified the DCF because I'm the pack mule when going out with my family.

 

[DeePow]

It’s a non-issue. There are occasional condensation issues but I never had significant dripping from the ridge line. The review should be published any day now.


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Did you always run the nest while camping? If not, was there still limited condensation?

 

[Josh Boyd]

Did you always run the nest while camping? If not, was there still limited condensation?

I used the nest mostly in buggy conditions. Without it there was limited condensation. The most occurred with wet heavy snow storms but most of the fall weather was light to moderate levels.

 

[Andrew.c]

Looking at this as an option for the back country this year!

 

[badkneesbro]

Okay Josh. Lets pretend you want a shelter big enough to sit up and eat in, big enough for your stove and all your wood for 3 days plus all your gear for one guy. Its gonna be used in heavy snow and the weight of the shelter in your pack is of no concern. Also you hate sag in the wet weather. Okay its really me. Cimarron or Guardian?

 

[Josh Boyd]

Okay Josh. Lets pretend you want a shelter big enough to sit up and eat in, big enough for your stove and all your wood for 3 days plus all your gear for one guy. Its gonna be used in heavy snow and the weight of the shelter in your pack is of no concern. Also you hate sag in the wet weather. Okay its really me. Cimarron or Guardian?

You ask some hard questions…. The Guardian would work in that situation without any issues. But the Cimarron excels in the category of interior space and also allows for an up-size stove. Both will have plenty of area for gear but the Cimarron will have more headroom. And if you hate sag think about finding one in Dyneema.


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[badkneesbro]

You ask some hard questions…. The Guardian would work in that situation without any issues. But the Cimarron excels in the category of interior space and also allows for an up-size stove. Both will have plenty of area for gear but the Cimarron will have more headroom. And if you hate sag think about finding one in Dyneema.


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Sorry Josh. The reason I put that question to you is because I found an old review you did on the Cimarron and it seemed less than favorable than similar tarps and I already own a Cimarron, just have never had a chance to use it.

 

[natey57]

Thanks for the review! I’m interested in getting a floorless tent…so many choices out there!

 

[Josh Boyd]

Sorry Josh. The reason I put that question to you is because I found an old review you did on the Cimarron and it seemed less than favorable than similar tarps and I already own a Cimarron, just have never had a chance to use it.

Fair point, but I do love the Cimarron. My criticisms in that review were small issues that surface when I am being ultra-critical. The is no perfect product and I need to find something to write about.