Scythe vs leupold scopes

[Yukon Cornelius]

I noticed that the scythe still gets recommended despite the failures that have been documented. Wouldn’t this be equivalent to the leupold?

I’m just trying to figure out if I really should get rid of my leupold scopes. I got two left on my hunting rifles.

 

[AndrewMT34]

Drop test them and see how they perform. If they pass keep them! If they don’t, there’s a reason to move them along.

 

[IDVortex]

 

[River Reaper]

This thread will just turn into more of the same; anecdotes on both sides arguing with each other. Only get rid of them if you’re having issues or if you need the peace of mind, not because of some Internet forum full of strangers that may or may not have ulterior financial motives. I track zero, and mine have held zero through some big falls and drops. Do what is best for you.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

Rather than subject to popular opinion, just test the scopes for yourself. Only way to trust them.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

I noticed that the scythe still gets recommended despite the failures that have been documented.

As more and more fail, including on long barrel magnums and also lighter calibers I can't say I see them being recommended much in the last weeks, have you? Who is still recommending them? Seems like many are saying they are turned off of them until the manufacturer acknowledges what the problem is and how they've addressed it. When the manufacturer states there is no problem, blames customer abuse, and just repairs them without any certainty it won't fail again it erodes customer confidence.

Various scope companies fall into that latter camp.

 

[bullmtn]

I hunt with my ex-wife, so I determined the Scythe fit my use case.

 

[HuntHarder]

I still recommend them. It absolutely performs at an awesome weight and size. I can't stand that silerncerco won't acknowledge the problem, but I also think the failures are very low. A Google search doesn't turn up many failures, mainly just the thread on here. I am personally shooting the shit out of mine hoping it fails. I did 200 rounds of 6.5 cm and 308 plus 40 rounds of 22" 300 WM a couple weeks ago. It was 95* outside. She's still kicking lol. I have joked about attaching a steel cable and 50' of fishing line to the end cap to make it easier to find when it separates.

 

[5811]

I still recommend them. It absolutely performs at an awesome weight and size. I can't stand that silerncerco won't acknowledge the problem, but I also think the failures are very low. A Google search doesn't turn up many failures, mainly just the thread on here. I am personally shooting the shit out of mine hoping it fails. I did 200 rounds of 6.5 cm and 308 plus 40 rounds if 22" 300 win a couple weeks ago. It was 95* outside. She's still kicking lol. I have joked about attaching a steel cable and 50' of fishing line to the end cap to make it easier to find when it separates.

This post is, in my opinion, where the OP has a point. If you have a firearm accessory that introduces some uncertainty into the shot, you're doing the same thing as using a vortex or a Leupold.

There's cheaper options like the enticer sti that's on par stats-wise that doesn't have a record of failure and the nomad xc that is quieter and the same price, just slightly bigger/heavier. Why anyone would recommend a scythe that introduces a potential failure point when other more durable options exist, is pretty much the same thing as talking about how light/nice glass a leupold is while saying failures don't always happen.

 

[Tod osier]

I noticed that the scythe still gets recommended despite the failures that have been documented. Wouldn’t this be equivalent to the leupold?

I’m just trying to figure out if I really should get rid of my leupold scopes. I got two left on my hunting rifles.

You can't tell if a Leupold has failed. With a scythe, it is pretty apparent.

Multiple reports indicate that the last bullet through a scythe landed on its mark, so there is that too. If you are hunting with one, that suggests that you will hit what you are aiming at, that can't be said of a Leupold.

 

[HuntHarder]

0 disagreement, about not recommending it. I get it

 

[HuntHarder]

You can't tell if a Leupold has failed. With a scythe, it is pretty apparent.

Multiple reports indicate that the last bullet through a scythe landed on its mark, so there is that too. If you are hunting with one, that suggests that you will hit what you are aiming at, that can't be said of a Leupold.

Could you imagine the wallop if the end cap hits the animal too? Talk about wound channel

 

[5811]

Multiple reports indicate that the last bullet through a scythe landed on its mark, so there is that too. If you are hunting with one, that suggests that you will hit what you are aiming at, that can't be said of a Leupold.

I don't think I've seen enough evidence of that to be confident in that statement.

It may be true, but if we are serious about removing all mechanical sources of variability from the rifle system, I can't agree with that sentiment.

 

[Tod osier]

I don't think I've seen enough evidence of that to be confident in that statement.

It may be true, but if we are serious about removing all mechanical sources of variability from the rifle system, I can't agree with that sentiment.

Not that this is a hill I'd die on, but there is enough evidence in the failure thread to be very suggestive...

 

[Marbles]

Exactly, it is the equivalent.

I certainly don't recommend the Scythe any longer, just like I don't recommend Leupholds.

Are you trying to argue that because the Scythe is garbage, we should also accept garbage scopes? Just go buy yourself a Scythe to go with the Leupold, they are the perfect combination of beauty that lacks robustness. I'll sell you my Scythe for $850, you pay your tax stamp and any shipping and transfer fees. It has never been used on anything bigger than a 223.

You are free to do what you want, I ordered a Scythe before the first failure reports and would not by another SiCo product as I don't trust them any longer.

As has repeatedly been stated, if you have Leupholds that work, keep them. In my case I will keep the Scythe as a 223 can, wast of money for that use, but cheaper than selling and buying a can I'd prefer.

Sincerely,
One pot stirrer to another

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

You can't tell if a Leupold has failed. With a scythe, it is pretty apparent.

Multiple reports indicate that the last bullet through a scythe landed on its mark, so there is that too. If you are hunting with one, that suggests that you will hit what you are aiming at, that can't be said of a Leupold.

Unless it kills you.

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

Exactly, it is the equivalent.

I certainly don't recommend the Scythe any longer, just like I don't recommend Leupholds.

Are you trying to argue that because the Scythe is garbage, we should also accept garbage scopes? Just go buy yourself a Scythe to go with the Leupold, they are the perfect combination of beauty that lacks robustness. I'll sell you my Scythe for $850, you pay your tax stamp and any shipping and transfer fees. It has never been used on anything bigger than a 223.

You are free to do what you want, I ordered a Scythe before the first failure reports and would not by another SiCo product as I don't trust them any longer.

As has repeatedly been stated, if you have Leupholds that work, keep them. In my case I will keep the Scythe as a 223 can, wast of money for that use, but cheaper than selling and buying a can I'd prefer.

Sincerely,
One pot stirrer to another

I’ll pass unless it’s $350…

I find it the equivalent. I just saw quite a few recommendations for it, while mentioning the issues.

Sometimes the herd mentality is quite hilarious.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Exactly, it is the equivalent.

I certainly don't recommend the Scythe any longer, just like I don't recommend Leupholds.

Are you trying to argue that because the Scythe is garbage, we should also accept garbage scopes? Just go buy yourself a Scythe to go with the Leupold, they are the perfect combination of beauty that lacks robustness. I'll sell you my Scythe for $850, you pay your tax stamp and any shipping and transfer fees. It has never been used on anything bigger than a 223.

You are free to do what you want, I ordered a Scythe before the first failure reports and would not by another SiCo product as I don't trust them any longer.

As has repeatedly been stated, if you have Leupholds that work, keep them. In my case I will keep the Scythe as a 223 can, wast of money for that use, but cheaper than selling and buying a can I'd prefer.

Sincerely,
One pot stirrer to another

Same, I always thought SiCO was trash but gave them a chance with the scythe, now I've got one and don't really want it or trust it anymore. I should have bought something else that I know would be solid. I'll never spend another dime with Silencer Co.

If they acknowledged that there was a problem, took steps to make it right etc, etc it would be totally different. As it is now, I guess its a range toy for my 6.5 that may pr may not blow up and injure me.

 

[HuntHarder]

Should we all video our range sessions, just in case it blows up and breaks our collarbones?

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

In all seriousness, I am glad for this forum. I was going to buy a scythe until I came across the issues presented here.

I’m still rocking leupolds…but I don’t track or dial.

If I did…

But my last two scopes were a Maven and a NF.