Scope, rings and bases for Weatherby Vanguard?

Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
I just ordered a Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian in .308 as a Xmas present "from" my wife. Use case will be deer, elk and black bear out to 350 yds max.

I'm looking at either the NF SHV 2-10 or Trijicon Accupoint 3-9 for scope. Which would you guys go with and why?

I'm also curious as to what base and rings or one piece base and rings you guys recommend?

FWIW, I stepped away from Rokslide for a couple years so I'm not up to date on the latest recommended flavors. When I left, SWFA and Trijicon Credo were all the rage. I'm not interested in SWFA anymore so please leave it out of recommendations. I'm open to other manufacturers though.
 

WormSportsman

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Mar 20, 2017
Messages
230
Location
Montana
I’d add to your list and checkout the Trijicon Huron 2.5-10x40. I picked up one and threw it on a .243 and have been pretty impressed with it so far.
 

jamesmc8

WKR
Joined
Oct 26, 2021
Messages
420
The Trijicon Accupoint will save you a lot of weight (if thats a concern) at only 13oz. Plus I really like the battery free illumination. If you want better MIL or MOA reticles the Credo 3-9 offers those for 17oz with illumination. I have had a SHV 2-10 in the past. Solid scope but only has MOA based reticle, on the heavy side depending on application.
 

Marshfly

WKR
Joined
Sep 18, 2022
Messages
1,351
Location
Missoula, Montana
The Vanguard is a Howa 1500 so you can use that in your search also.

I recently scoped a 1500 and went with an Outer Impact 20MOA rail and Warne MountainTech rings. I like them a lot and they are light.

I tried the DNZ rings also on that rifle and really liked them as well but I needed the 20MOA rail for the scope I chose so had to pull them off.
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
I’d add to your list and checkout the Trijicon Huron 2.5-10x40. I picked up one and threw it on a .243 and have been pretty impressed with it so far.
I got one of those too when Euro was still selling them for $300. I put it on a CVA .300 blk and really like it. The eye relief isn't bad at all despite being listed as pretty damn short. I might consider switching it over to the Vanguard. Thanks!
 
Joined
Jun 15, 2017
Messages
2,501
Location
San Antonio
I got one of those too when Euro was still selling them for $300. I put it on a CVA .300 blk and really like it. The eye relief isn't bad at all despite being listed as pretty damn short. I might consider switching it over to the Vanguard. Thanks!
It's the same internal parts as the Credo sans the illumination. They're good scopes so if you already have it you may as well use it. If you slap a Picatinny rail on both the Vanguard and the Blk then you can easily swap it back and forth. I like Trijicon rings for Trijicon scopes and Warner Mountain Tech for anything else.
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
The Trijicon Accupoint will save you a lot of weight (if thats a concern) at only 13oz. Plus I really like the battery free illumination. If you want better MIL or MOA reticles the Credo 3-9 offers those for 17oz with illumination. I have had a SHV 2-10 in the past. Solid scope but only has MOA based reticle, on the heavy side depending on application.
Weight isn't really a concern for this rifle because of where and how I plan to use it. I figure it's gonna end up around 10 lbs regardless of what scope goes on it.

I'm leaning strongly towards the Accupoint because of the battery free illumination. I've been curious about it for years. I'm only considering the SHV because with Mil discount, it doesn't cost much more than the Accupoint.

Thanks for the help
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
The Vanguard is a Howa 1500 so you can use that in your search also.

I recently scoped a 1500 and went with an Outer Impact 20MOA rail and Warne MountainTech rings. I like them a lot and they are light.

I tried the DNZ rings also on that rifle and really liked them as well but I needed the 20MOA rail for the scope I chose so had to pull them off.
I'll check and see if DNZ has a one piece mount for it. I have one on a R700 .308 with SWFA 10x42. I appreciate how simple it is but not sure how durable they are. I should probably research that.

I like the idea of one piece base and rings. I used to run Talleys but Form said they're prone to cracking. So then I switched to Hawkins hybrids on my hard use rifles. I don't want nor need the built in 25 moa on this rifle though.

I think I may end up with a rail and Warne mountain techs.

Thanks!
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
It's the same internal parts as the Credo sans the illumination. They're good scopes so if you already have it you may as well use it. If you slap a Picatinny rail on both the Vanguard and the Blk then you can easily swap it back and forth. I like Trijicon rings for Trijicon scopes and Warner Mountain Tech for anything else.
If I share scopes then I don't have an excuse to buy a new scope though! Haha
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
Should have a recoil lug (lip) and I think it is the only pic rail that does for the Vnaguard.

A lot of rings would work; MDT premier (I just learned they are like my preferred TPS), Warne Mountain Tech, Talley Modern Sporting, Hawkins, Area419, Unknown Munitions, etc.

Scope, you seem to be on the right path.
I was eyeballing the MDT premiers during the Black Friday sale. Never heard much about them though so didn't pull the trigger on them. I'll take a second look.

Yeah, after you destroyed my Helos 2-12, I've decided to stick with scopes that are recommended on here. I'm still trying to sell that damn thing.
 

@MBH

FNG
Joined
Sep 30, 2024
Messages
12
I'm in a very similar situation with my Howa 1500 Walnut Hunter, looking at Sightron Stac 3-16x and Trijicon Credo 3-9x. My biggest concern is the 90-degree bolt that would very likely interfere with any low mounted scope, the Trijicon being 2.0" wide at the ocular and the Sightron being 1.7". Just eyeballing the sight picture without a scope mounted and holding a measuring tape across the rear of the receiver it appears that unless I find an ocular width of 1.5" - ish, it appears that I'll need to use high mounts. Cameraland's sale on Sightron and EuroOptic's sale on Trijicon is fueling the fire.

Ideally Talley low mounts on a Credo is what I'd like, but I may end up with a Leupold given the smaller ocular bell that would not interfere with a low mounted scope.
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
I'm in a very similar situation with my Howa 1500 Walnut Hunter, looking at Sightron Stac 3-16x and Trijicon Credo 3-9x. My biggest concern is the 90-degree bolt that would very likely interfere with any low mounted scope, the Trijicon being 2.0" wide at the ocular and the Sightron being 1.7". Just eyeballing the sight picture without a scope mounted and holding a measuring tape across the rear of the receiver it appears that unless I find an ocular width of 1.5" - ish, it appears that I'll need to use high mounts. Cameraland's sale on Sightron and EuroOptic's sale on Trijicon is fueling the fire.

Ideally Talley low mounts on a Credo is what I'd like, but I may end up with a Leupold given the smaller ocular bell that would not interfere with a low mounted scope.
I don't have experience with talleys on a Howa but I do with a R700 LA, which also has a 90° throw. I tried mounting a Nikon Monarch in Talley lows and the bolt hit the eye piece. Medium 1" Talleys cleared the bell though.
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
Should have a recoil lug (lip) and I think it is the only pic rail that does for the Vnaguard.

A lot of rings would work; MDT premier (I just learned they are like my preferred TPS), Warne Mountain Tech, Talley Modern Sporting, Hawkins, Area419, Unknown Munitions, etc.

Scope, you seem to be on the right path.
I ordered the MDT 20 moa base you recommended. You're right, it's the only base that has that lip.

Didn't buy rings yet since I'm still trying to decide on scopes. I'm all over the place on that decision but keep coming back to either the 3-9 or 2.5-12x Accupoint, 3-9 or 2.5-15x Credo, or one of the SHV scopes.

Any advice?
 
Last edited:

sndmn11

"DADDY"
Joined
Mar 28, 2017
Messages
10,597
Location
Morrison, Colorado
I ordered the MDT 20 moa base you recommended. You're right, it's the only base that has that lip.

Didn't buy rings yet since I'm still trying to decide on scopes. I'm all over the place on that decision but keep coming back to either the 3-9 or 2.5-12x Accupoint, 3-9 or 2.5-15x Credo, or one of the SHV scopes.

Any advice?
Did it come yet and it actually does have a lip?

Pick a reticle you like between Nightforce, Maven, SWFA, Trijicon would be my advice. I just added a LRHS2 to play around with, so I have an extra SHVf1 I could sell if you go that route.
 
OP
JustSomeGuy35
Joined
Nov 19, 2020
Messages
398
Location
NW Illinois
Did it come yet and it actually does have a lip?

Pick a reticle you like between Nightforce, Maven, SWFA, Trijicon would be my advice. I just added a LRHS2 to play around with, so I have an extra SHVf1 I could sell if you go that route.
It hasn't come in yet. I was basing it off the picture which, in retrospect, could be wrong. I'll let you know when I find out.

I appreciate the advice and offer!
 
Top