Scope leveling

[rickyw]

I’ve used the wheeler leveling set. Lately I’ve just been eyeballing it, comparing the reticle to the rifle as I hold it out at arm’s length.

 

[BBob]

I don’t think a person needs any extra tools to do it but I’m surprised I never see this one mentioned

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Been using a version of that for 20-25 years mby more. Quick and easy. I have a verified vertical post on the house that I can look at from the shop to align reticle to and run elevation up and down to check. Power pole down the road to bore sight on.

 

[Unckebob]

This so easy to use

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The Optic Leveler is an inexpensive, easy-to-use tool for leveling scopes mounted in rings or one-piece mounts.

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True, but they don't fit every time.

 

[BBob]

True, but they don't fit every time.

Very true, sometimes there isn't enough room between scope and base.

 

[CRJR45]

True, but they don't fit every time.

But it's easy to use , thats all I said .... LOL

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I cheat and use a calibrated/known good self leveling laser. This is not needed but it’s what I do because I’m weird.

 

[Unckebob]

But it's easy to use , thats all I said .... LOL

I love mine, but get pissed when it won't fit.

 

[Castle Rock]

Aiming/shooting while the scope is level is all that’s needed. Not everyone holds and shoulders a gun the same.

Level the scope to your natural hold/can’t of the rifle.

Don’t over think it.


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This is so wrong, as are many of the other posts following.
You need to have your scope perpendicular to the rifle and the only way to do this is to ensure the vertical cross hair intersects the center of the firing pin ( actually the bore but you can’t see that as easily) or cocking indicator.
It is easy to do visually

 

[CRJR45]

I think this is a great example of two people being right , but for different reasons . Sasquatches method would work fine for snap shooting offhand out to one or two hundred , maybe .

Aiming/shooting while the scope is level is all that’s needed. Not everyone holds and shoulders a gun the same.

Level the scope to your natural hold/can’t of the rifle.

Don’t over think it.


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This is so wrong, as are many of the other posts following.
You need to have your scope perpendicular to the rifle and the only way to do this is to ensure the vertical cross hair intersects the center of the firing pin ( actually the bore but you can’t see that as easily) or cocking indicator.
It is easy to do visually

While Castle Rock is right about long distance accuracy needing the scope level to the rifle .

It's a matter of perspective , is it not ?

 

[limpet]

I have the set from UM that works well and allows for easy leveling.

 

[SchwarzStock]

Aiming/shooting while the scope is level is all that’s needed.

Don’t over think it.


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Not true. The rifle bore and and scope must be on the same vertical axis if you want your scope to track with elevation changes without requiring windage corrections with each range/elevation correction.

 

[Luked]

I use the wheeler kit and level the rifle then place the barrel level on then the scope.

 

[JGRaider]

Fast, foolproof, no brainer easy.......

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[wind gypsy]

Take aways from the below table: it takes over 3 degrees of error from plumb to bore to get an inch of windage error at 1000 yards. That's less than half a click in scope adjustment.

Much more concerned with getting a level on the scope correct when the reticle is plumb. I have the little plastic wheeler bubble levels, use em sometimes, but i can eyeball plumb with bore close enough to make me happy.

 

[wapitibob]

Take aways from the below table: it takes over 3 degrees of error from plumb to bore to get an inch of windage error at 1000 yards. That's less than half a click in scope adjustment.

It really shouldn't be that hard for people to visualize a scope reticle plumb to earth and a bubble level for reference, will always track vertical as long as that level is level, and the barrel offset will also be the same, relative to that reticle.

 

[SchwarzStock]

Nice chart but it does factor in the line of the bore and the sight not being on the same level. This is easily understood if you look at a vernier sight on an old target rifle, it makes a great difference, perhaps you don't see it so evidently because the reticle of the scope is not visibly rising. Find a BPCR shooter in your area and ask him it it matters.

 

[SloppyJ]

I use the two wheeler levels but I'm not sure I trust them. Finding accurate levels seem to be the hard part. Lately I've been getting my rifle in a vice, using the action level and then hanging a weighted string on the wall. It get's it damn close.

The two wheeler clamp on levels might be better. Problem for me is always trusting that the gun is level.

 

[wind gypsy]

Nice chart but it does factor in the line of the bore and the sight not being on the same level. This is easily understood if you look at a vernier sight on an old target rifle, it makes a great difference, perhaps you don't see it so evidently because the reticle of the scope is not visibly rising. Find a BPCR shooter in your area and ask him it it matters.

I'm not sure what you're getting at? My point was that plumb to bore is much less important than the sight being plumb to ground when shooting and that I put more effort into getting the one that has a much greater impact right as i can get close enough IMO on plumb to bore without a bunch of tools.

 

[BBob]

Nice chart but it does factor in the line of the bore and the sight not being on the same level.

For all of your ramblings and claims of shooting high power you should easily understand the concept of shooting a rifle with cant and how easily shooting with cant can be overcome and easily dealt with. You should also understand that the correction isn’t all that much and can be ignored for quite some distance.

 

[sasquatch]

WTH