Scope Evaluation passed models?

[Macintosh]

Being blunt is appreciated. I did read most. I didn’t see one FFP and there was one 10x that was ~9oz. Point was the durability and features many want come at the cost of weight. Given the brutality of these tests it’s not surprising. A list of “passed” with weight would be helpful for quick reference.

These field tests are suited for the guy that is pack hunting/traversing ground where falls are more likely and common. Where the equipment is used, abused and not pulled out of a case just prior to shooting. Those pack hunting care more about each ounce.

These tests are a great resource albeit not perfect. An optic manufacturer (one that passed every test) should be proud to organize the data in a spreadsheet. Would probably boost sales. Had I found this resource (all the tests) earlier I probably would have ended up with a different optic and saved 10-18oz.

Also, the test was also supposed to correlate to scopes that inexplicably had problems “at some point”, ie the quick test falls are (supposedly) predictive of eventual long-term failure in normal use, even without falls. That part is a bit more tenuous to illustrate and hasnt been “shown” per se, but as I recall thats how the eval is described. There are some models where that seems to bear out in my experience, and a few where it doesnt. But I dont have the visibility some do, so wont hurt to take my exp. with a grain of salt.

 

[cjdewese]

No. I owned one and tested tracking on it. It didn’t perform for my needs and sold it.

What caliber did you have it on if you don't mind me asking. Also do you think it would matter if it were a lighter caliber?

 

[Dobermann]

Not sure if this thread will get back on track, but if it does ... the Minoz ZP5 with THLR reticle is on the list - full eval in the subforum.

 

[Blacktail_Brown]

Resurrecting this hornet nest... I've been watching this debate with bated breath. I have several VX5s. Half usually require fine-tuning before season, but they kill animals... usually. And those that wander only do it after a $100 trip to the range.

All of that said, that's just not a good batting average and I appreciate that folks offer feedback and do these tests to at least give me some relief that it may not always and only be me.

I'm not a fanboy, but have tended to Leupold because, like others, it is what I know. But unless they sponsor me, I'll drop them like a morning coffee turd.

I've been looking at multiple other brands. Still an MOA guy so haven't tried SWFA. I had the NF NXS and could not get used to the eye relief and really disliked the reticle.

Looking at Trijicon now. Or possibly jumping from VX5 to Mark 5; however, I'm curious if anyone has had experiences with the newer Sig Whiskey lines? How do they stack up? Any others I should look at?

Probably keep the VX5s that work and send the lemons back. I wish they'd address it because they are damn perfect in every other way.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Resurrecting this hornet nest... I've been watching this debate with bated breath. I have several VX5s. Half usually require fine-tuning before season, but they kill animals... usually. And those that wander only do it after a $100 trip to the range.

All of that said, that's just not a good batting average and I appreciate that folks offer feedback and do these tests to at least give me some relief that it may not always and only be me.

I'm not a fanboy, but have tended to Leupold because, like others, it is what I know. But unless they sponsor me, I'll drop them like a morning coffee turd.

I've been looking at multiple other brands. Still an MOA guy so haven't tried SWFA. I had the NF NXS and could not get used to the eye relief and really disliked the reticle.

Looking at Trijicon now. Or possibly jumping from VX5 to Mark 5; however, I'm curious if anyone has had experiences with the newer Sig Whiskey lines? How do they stack up? Any others I should look at?

Probably keep the VX5s that work and send the lemons back. I wish they'd address it because they are damn perfect in every other way.

I was very similar to you, it will astound you when you replace the vx-5 with a credo and lo and behold the rifle POA & POI are the same trip after trip to the range, before and after the season, ect… yes you should always confirm your weapon prior to a hunt but now I don’t expect to pop the turrets off and fiddle my poi two moa back up to the bullseye.

 

[sndmn11]

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I've been looking at multiple other brands. Still an MOA guy so haven't tried SWFA. I

There's moa versions

 

[rookieforever33]

Love my Leupolds despite 1 of my 4 wandering. [Still need to send it back, vx freedom, no dialing]. As my rifle collection has grown I bought a credo and a shv. I did not like the credo turrets. Especially since it was exposed without a lock. The shv clicks feel great. Haven't shot either enough yet to start replacing my leupold scopes that are holding up. I really wish they were more trustworthy. I love their reticles and cds.

 

[jfk69]

Love my Leupolds despite 1 of my 4 wandering. [Still need to send it back, vx freedom, no dialing]. As my rifle collection has grown I bought a credo and a shv. I did not like the credo turrets. Especially since it was exposed without a lock. The shv clicks feel great. Haven't shot either enough yet to start replacing my leupold scopes that are holding up. I really wish they were more trustworthy. I love their reticles and cds.

And right here sits the dichotomy. If they were reliable (dialing, tracking, return to zero) they would be a no brainer. Except they are non of the above. But their weight is good, and maybe something in that is the problem?

 

[Hnthrdr]

Love my Leupolds despite 1 of my 4 wandering. [Still need to send it back, vx freedom, no dialing]. As my rifle collection has grown I bought a credo and a shv. I did not like the credo turrets. Especially since it was exposed without a lock. The shv clicks feel great. Haven't shot either enough yet to start replacing my leupold scopes that are holding up. I really wish they were more trustworthy. I love their reticles and cds.

Which credo has exposed turrets that don’t lock? My non-locking models are capped (3-9 & 2.5-10) my exposed models all have the locking feature 2.5-15 & 4-16

 

[rookieforever33]

Which credo has exposed turrets that don’t lock? My non-locking models are capped (3-9 & 2.5-10) my exposed models all have the locking feature 2.5-15 & 4-16

Mine only locked one direction once the zero stop was set. Turret still spun one way to raise poi without locking. Unless I completely missed something. Once I got this I only had 10 days to ship it back for a refund. Read the manual, played around with it, decided between the turrets and the fact I would have had to get a different rail/ring combo it was going back. I might try a capped version. Or just get another shv.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Mine only locked one direction once the zero stop was set. Turret still spun one way to raise poi without locking. Unless I completely missed something. Once I got this I only had 10 days to ship it back for a refund. Read the manual, played around with it, decided between the turrets and the fact I would have had to get a different rail/ring combo it was going back. I might try a capped version. Or just get another shv.

Gotcha I’ve never had an issue with it just having the zero stop, but I get your concern

 

[rookieforever33]

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Gotcha I’ve never had an issue with it just having the zero stop, but I get your concern

You get a feeling of security with the locking tab on the leupold cds dial. Then lose confidence with reliability that I have personal experience. If the credo would have fit my rifle better with my rings I would have given it a go. I liked the glass and other things about it. But the nightforce I put on my other rifle really feels good. I thik both companies make a really nice products. Everyone has their own preferences. Its hard for companies to please everyone, or find whats just right for you.

 

[Blacktail_Brown]

There's moa versions

When I look at the website, I do not see any MOA in a variable scope. Only in fixed versions. Maybe I am not looking in the right spot.

 

[sndmn11]

When I look at the website, I do not see any MOA in a variable scope. Only in fixed versions. Maybe I am not looking in the right spot.

Variables, no, but fixed there is.

I believe there was a run of MOA 3-15x in the past that sometimes pop up for sale.