School me on Swarovski spotters and tripods

Pgohil

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I am ready to buy a Swarovski spotter. I don't spot and stalk hunt really, but I do want one. We spend time in Yellowstone and I have an Alaska brown bear hunt this fall plus it would be nice when long range shooting I'm unsure of what options to go with. I don't need the stabilized version. I'm 95% sure I want a angled spotter. but objective size and zoom are choices I haven't made. bigger is better, but comes at weight and bulk penalty if I do take it into the back country. HELP!!!!

Now tripods...... I am absolutely clueless. Not ever sure how to start researching that. thoughts??

Appreciate everyone input and help.

P Gohil
WV
 
Hey,

Swaro's an advertiser here but I used them long before that, FWIW

Before deciding on Angled vs. Straight, check out Travis's Rokcast episode: https://www.rokslide.com/your-angled-spotting-scope-is-holding-you-back/

If you don't have the time to listen to it, it converted me to straight spotters. For mule deer hunting at least, all that time I was losing adjusting my column was costing me a few buck spots per year. But this is mostly because I switch between binos/spotter. If you're spotter only, that is less of an issue. Although I think it's still faster to get on target with a straight (you look over the spotter, like a gun barrel) vs angled (you're forced to look down)

If you're using primarily close to a vehicle and are happy with one objective size, I'd go with the STS 80 mm. Eyepiece is modular, and I finally settled on the 25-50X for the wide angle. The 20-60x was ok, but getting to use 60x means good field conditions (low wind, good lighting).

Tripods? I'm assuming you don't need compact? If you're not on a budget, the Outdoorsmans Innegra (sp?). Or Swaro's BIG PCT. I had Gen 1 of that and am still using it (from the truck) 10 seasons later.

Budget? look at Outdoorsmans aluminum versions, MTN HNTR 60'+,

If you're looking for compact, same companies, just look at their smaller stuff, and add S&S Archery for their SLIK 624 (that's what I have).

I also still have a Vanguard carbon fiber. It was a budget tripod but still going strong. I use it when truck hunting and can take two tripods.

I will say if you're a casual user and your lifetime hunt isn't depending on a flawless bullet proof tripod, the budget stuff has a lot of value.

I've used all these tripods because they advertise with us, but Javelin/Spartan does too but I've only seen their gear at the shows. But watching Rob Gearing doing pull-ups on thier big tripod gives me plenty of confidence they're good.

You didn't ask about tripod heads so I'll stop. but you'll need to decide on that too. Plenty of other guys on here with more tripod head experience than me, so you should hear plenty of options.

let us know what you end up doing.
 
Straight.. Always straight.. Angled is for sitting on a bench or bird watching IMO - but if you want an angled im happy to help!

Links
Swarovski Modular Objective 95 mm Arca Swiss Green 48895
Swarovski STX Modular Straight Eyepiece 49902
Tricer HK Tripod Kit HK-KIT-1

This to me, is a winning setup.
The modular spotter setup is amazingly handy, and you can build off of it as you learn and advance.
I personally run a BTX with a 115mm for summer velvet glassing here in PA, and a ST balance for all of my hunting - different use cases here on the east coast vs in the rockys.
The 95mm is discontinued so they are at a great price right now
The Tricer HK kit is a stupidly simple tripod, very strong and includes their ball head and gun clamp for a fraction of the cost, at a more cost effective price than building out all the pieces youd need independently.
You may want to swap to a fluid pan head at a later date, but that is easy to do.

As always, shoot me a PM if you have any questions, or would like to put an order together with me! ;)
-Jake
 
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I am ready to buy a Swarovski spotter. I don't spot and stalk hunt really, but I do want one. We spend time in Yellowstone and I have an Alaska brown bear hunt this fall plus it would be nice when long range shooting I'm unsure of what options to go with. I don't need the stabilized version. I'm 95% sure I want a angled spotter. but objective size and zoom are choices I haven't made. bigger is better, but comes at weight and bulk penalty if I do take it into the back country. HELP!!!!

Now tripods...... I am absolutely clueless. Not ever sure how to start researching that. thoughts??

Appreciate everyone input and help.

P Gohil
WV
You need to figure out what size of glass you are going with before you start researching tripod and head combos. I would not use the same tripod for an ATC as I would for a BTX with a 115mm lense and vice versa.
 
There are lots of different possibilities regarding Swarovski spotters.

Much will depend on your budget and what you are willing to spend for the spotters, tripod, and tripod head. Also if used or brand new.

All that said, the budget for it all can range from the top of the line for everything (spotter, tripod, tripod head) at, say, $9K, biggest spotter, brand new, to the bottom end in the $2-3K range for a used everything with an older 65mm used non-HD spotter.

Make sure you already have a good set of binoculars before getting a spotter as you will be spending 95% of your glassing time looking through them versus a spotter.

That said, if you are considering a 65MM versus an 80MM, the weight difference is less than a pound. That is the weight of a pint of water. A lot of folks say go smaller as it’s easier to pack. My advice is get the bigger one as it has better optical performance with the bigger lens. Especially at low light. My recommendation would be to cut that pound somewhere else outta your pack. Or even better yet, get in shape, and cut that pound off of your body weight. That would be a win/win no matter how you look at it.


My advice differs from what others have said in that I would recommend angled. It is better for mountain use, differing heights of various users, and arguably better for use at the range, in a vehicle or with a window mount. But that is my opinion. And I have used both straight and angled for hours and hours. But it is up to you. Ford, Chevy, Dodge.

If you think you are gonna digiscope with the spotter, get an HD spotter. Better image color.

As far as tripods, I would recommend a stable one. I have owned lots of them, but the best one I’ve found is an Outdoorsmans. Light weight, yet very stable. And can be more easily repaired. They are pricey, but worth it.

Tripod head would be pan or fluid head as they are much better for use with spotters in my opinion.
 
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