School me on snow tires....Blizzak?

[Boreal]

The Hakka's would start to get a little squirrely around 160 km/h where as the Blizzaks hold strong to at least 190.

To be clear here, you say that the Hakka tires were good to 160 kph, or 100 mph, and the Blizzaks were good to 190, or 120 mph? Where are you driving 120 miles per hour on icy roads? Or, perhaps more relevant, WHY?


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[BCSteel]

To be clear here, you say that the Hakka tires were good to 160 kph, or 100 mph, and the Blizzaks were good to 190, or 120 mph? Where are you driving 120 miles per hour on icy roads? Or, perhaps more relevant, WHY?


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Sweet, I found the social justice warrior of rokslide!

 

[Boreal]

Sweet, I found the social justice warrior of rokslide!

Not sure what you're meaning here. I just have never thought I'd be pushing my tires to 120 mph on dry or icy roads. I was seriously impressed that you got to those speeds and still had the moxie to differentiate the squirreliness between two sets of tires. I'd have been worried about the growing wetness in my pants at those speeds on ice. I suppose the wide-eyed impressed look is hard to convey over comments on the webs.

 

[BCSteel]

Not sure what you're meaning here. I just have never thought I'd be pushing my tires to 120 mph on dry or icy roads. I was seriously impressed that you got to those speeds and still had the moxie to differentiate the squirreliness between two sets of tires. I'd have been worried about the growing wetness in my pants at those speeds on ice. I suppose the wide-eyed impressed look is hard to convey over comments on the webs.

Why is for the same reason I take my car to the track, or shoot long distance, or go camping for several days with only a knife. It's so I know where the intersection of my skills and equipment safely meet should I ever have to push the limits.

So just as I don't drift in town or take corners at 1.2 g's or practice 800 yard shots on elk or hike in 30km to practice primitive survival skills with no escape route, I don't drive to the speed limit of my winter tires during winter conditions.

 

[Boreal]

Why is for the same reason I take my car to the track, or shoot long distance, or go camping for several days with only a knife. It's so I know where the intersection of my skills and equipment safely meet should I ever have to push the limits.

So just as I don't drift in town or take corners at 1.2 g's or practice 800 yard shots on elk or hike in 30km to practice primitive survival skills with no escape route, I don't drive to the speed limit of my winter tires during winter conditions.

“I take my car to the track” would have been much easier, but much less pompous.


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[BCSteel]

“I take my car to the track” would have been much easier, but much less pompous.


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Pompous? You mean like assuming that I drive like a maniac on icy winter roads? You reap what you sow buddy.

 

[mtwarden]

Nokians on both my truck and wife's car for the last 15-ish winters (not the same vehicles or tires). When we have a particularly bad winter, I always threaten to go studded, but it's usually followed by a more moderate winter I usually go four seasons with the Nokians and then get new- treadwear is fine, but I start losing confidence in the compound after 4-5 years. Season equating to ~ 5-6 months.

I have the "snow flake" BFG's and while they are very good in deep snow, there are simply too many voids to make them very good on ice or packed snow. I have my BFG's on now and definitely should have my Nokians on- they will go on this week.

 

[vdeal]

I run BFG AT KO2's on my Tundra, ran them on an F150 and a Land Rover Discovery and we have snow. It can be dry and powdery but that's the exception, more wet or mixed here with ice underneath. Most people see the "AT" in the BFG's and say it's an All Terrain tire which it is but it is also a winter tire and has the Mountain/Snowflake symbol for Severe Snow and Winter Traction. You might see folks with any kind of tires in the ditch but the tires usually aren't the culprit - it's the driver and lack of driving skill. I don't care what tires, drive train system, chains, etc. that you have you can't drive 65mph on snowy, icy roads and expect to cruise along like it's the middle of summer. Folks need to slow down and use some common sense which seems sadly lacking these days.

 

[bluestone]

Over 60000 miles on Goodyear Duratrac tires with great performance year around. Snow and ice included.

 

[Poser]

I just got a pair of these Hankook Ipikes and studded them up. I have a 2wd Tahoe which is not a great vehicle for mountain driving (but it's paid for), so I decided to go studs + 300 lbs of sand over the rear wheel wells. Durango is still devoid of snow at the moment, however.

 

[Trial153]

Yearly I run blizzaks on both my wifes truck and my own. They go on in Nov and come off the end of march. They are excellent. Definitely worth the time, effort and expense. I find AT tires are fine that first winter however after that they arent cut out for our NE winters. Blizzaks last and perform. Great product.

 

[sneaky]

I just got a pair of these Hankook Ipikes and studded them up. I have a 2wd Tahoe which is not a great vehicle for mountain driving (but it's paid for), so I decided to go studs + 300 lbs of sand over the rear wheel wells. Durango is still devoid of snow at the moment, however.

I've ran the studless IPikes on my work car before, great tires. Probably the favorite of all the winter tires I've ran. I go through a set of winter tires every year, as I'll put 40-50k on a set between Nov-Apr. You should be good with those and the sand.

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[sneaky]

Over 60000 miles on Goodyear Duratrac tires with great performance year around. Snow and ice included.

I must have had the world's worst luck with DuraTracs because I didn't care at all for their winter performance. Took them off and they are still setting in my shop with 15k miles on them.

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[Shraggs]

Here in Michigan, snow tires in winter for both my wife's and my work car. Blizzak or Hakka 's are both excellent - vs a half dozen others we've used over the years. I think Hakka has slight advantage in turns and in theory will maintain its grip deeper into tread since the whole tire is a pure soft rubber compaoind where the blazzak is soft compound down to around 7/32, if I recall. Both stellar

On my trucks, I've run every at tire in 25 years and none compare to a true snow tire. Some stand outs tho if drive accordingly: nokian vitiva which is discontinued. Duratracs pretty darn good. Smooth hard placed roads that are slick and icy both struggle compared to snow tire tho. I run at on the truck cause I may take a trip for hunting outside if snow belt so this works for me.