S2H winter class 2026 observations and lessons learned

After the class, how are people feeling about spotting scopes for finding animals and spotting hits? It sounds like most/all spotters sucked for this purpose, but 10x RF binos left a lot to be desired as well.
Form and others hit on spotters for spotting shots, but in terms of finding animals I'll add that 15's are far more comfortable to look though for long periods of time and there's very few animals I've found with a spotter that I wouldn't have seen with 15's.

While not ideal, 10x RF binos on a tripod is still feasible for spotting shots if it's all you have with you. At closer ranges the extra FOV isn't a bad thing - I used 10x RF binos on a tripod to spot shots on an elk this past fall at 100 yards and it might've been the only time I wouldn't have rather had 15's.
 
As far as I am aware, no one used the on-board ballistics during the field shooting portion of the class. One of the things constantly brought up is to test your gear, and also understand workarounds when your gear inevitably fails. Quick Drop works very well for what it is (a method to make fast, accurate hits on target), and if you use a set of ballistic capable binos you will lose the reps required to build the QD foundation that will backstop the rest of your shooting process. QD also will let you give/receive drops for almost any rifle with ease, meaning you can switch to your partner's gun in the middle of a shot string and still be effective, vs having to take out a phone and reference a chart or re-sync an app.

For instance, I have Revics and use the onboard ballistics a good bit. My Revics no longer work after undergoing a bit of an impromptu drop-test-esque evolution last week. No worries; just back to a handheld RF and QD in my head and I'm hitting 10" steel at 600 yards with almost no loss in speed for the actual shot process.

And the only reason to use MOA is to pick out your dot size for your target stickers off the shelf at the gun store. You don't have to know mils going into the course, but there is no way you leave the class and don't want to shoot mils for everything.
Prior to the drop test on your Revics, were you getting the range from the Revics for the quick drop? I thought the Revics typically show the line of sight range as opposed to the angle compensated range. I know that doesn't matter much unless angles get steep, but wondering.
 
Prior to the drop test on your Revics, were you getting the range from the Revics for the quick drop? I thought the Revics typically show the line of sight range as opposed to the angle compensated range. I know that doesn't matter much unless angles get steep, but wondering.

Revics in BDC mode will give the angle compensated range, however for most of the shots in the field shooting portion of the class angles didn't come into play. I do wish it would only display the angle compensated range as a default. Mine were BLR10b's, not sure if the newer model displays the data that way.

A 540 yd LOS on a 15* slope will have a compensated range of 520 yds, so .2 mil (~3.9") difference between the two for the rifle/load I have up on my app right now. It matters less on closer shots, more on longer range where Quick Drop typically falls off in accuracy relative to a ballistic calculator. It probably won't cost you an animal, it may cost you a target in a competition though.
 
I’m interested in hearing if anyone has more information about the rewarming drill.

I’m curious whether everyone submerged wearing just base layers and pants, or if people were also wearing their active insulation layer when they went in.

Also, what layers was everyone wearing, and how did they compare to others?
 
I'll do my best to make it dramatic.

So no shit, there I was (with my Revics)...It was called the '80s. Ford was President, Nixon was in the White House and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-a-wall town in what is now called Utah. Some fella from Colorado shows up, starts making so called "improvements", right? Before we knew what hit us, the streets are running with latte. It got so bad that a fella that liked to, you know... smoke a little grass or drink a little ripple. Crow like a rooster, maybe challenge the mayor's son to a gentlemen's duel, was "uncouth, against God." More like bad for real estate values. The Revics had to go!

I had been glassing up some elk at the house and they slipped going back in the harness onto a tile floor from about 4-5 feet. Collimation seems a little off, and the LRF itself nulls out. Revic sent an RMA, and has them now. Shit happens, I don't think it's much different than a tripod getting blown over in the wind or any number of other ways to end up with damaged gear; certainly nothing I am holding against those binos in particular now. I am not going to start carrying a separate LRF, as I can just mil it with the scope reticle now and get a range if I don't have a hunting partner that can range it for me.

I kid you not, Sam Elliot read that first paragraph in my head.
 
It's taken me a bit to compile and organize my thoughts after the 2026 winter S2H class in combination with looking back over the past year after the 2025 class and what I have experienced since then. It's not short, but there is some good info and lessons within and some photos for those of us who prefer those.

BACKGROUND
I took the 2025 winter class, have practiced shooting consistently since then, and since then have directly shot or spotted for three elk and a mule deer and been around several additional deer and antelope hunts this past fall. I’m also on a SAR team and have seen firsthand what happens in the mountains when things go wrong and people are operating at their worst.

This is a summary of lessons I learned last year, applied during hunting season, observed while hunting and on SAR missions, and had reinforced again at the 2026 winter class. Many points have already been covered by Form and others, so I’ll focus mainly on areas that haven’t been emphasized as much.

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SHOOTING
Obviously, the class teaches you to be a better shooter. What’s less obvious, and often understated, is that it teaches you to perform on demand. That means being able to make effective shots inside 600 yards regardless of distance, position, terrain, or time pressure.

This is developed through repetition. You practice enough correct reps that they begin to override old habits and become your default. That process was clear during the first day away from the range in the winter course this year. When time, pressure, and stress were added, many students reverted to previous bad habits. After correction and repeated proper execution, the second day in the hills went much smoother under similar stress. When you maintain those habits, they truly do become your default. I noticed this personally at the course — I made far fewer communication errors this year compared to last (though I still have areas to improve).

The real world isn’t a flat, manicured, range, so only being able to shoot prone is extremely limiting. Comfort with shooting from a variety of positions opens up many more opportunities. Last fall, I hunted with someone who could only shoot prone off a bipod. In the terrain we were hunting, it simply wasn’t possible — and nothing was killed.

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Speed is another critical factor. Hunters often say, “Sometimes you only have seconds to kill a big buck,” yet when people are actually timed, most take minutes to break a good shot. Speed is deliberately taught and practiced in this class, which makes you more effective. After developing competence at shooting quickly, it becomes painfully obvious how many opportunities are lost simply because a partner is slow and unpracticed.

Effective spotting requires quality binoculars on a tripod. This is not something you can do halfway, yet compromised spotting setups (poor glass, not mounted on a tripod or stable surface, etc) are something I have seen more than any other shortcut. Compromised spotting doesn’t save time — it costs more time and/or makes it impossible to confirm hits/misses. I’ve seen this play out while hunting on animals both ways. Good tripod-mounted binos are invaluable and one of the best tools for preventing unnecessary rodeos during and after the shot.

Quick Drop is taught in the class and most people pick it up quickly. However, it often doesn’t get highlighted as a significant benefit like some other topics. The ability to quickly calculate ballistics in your head is a huge advantage in the field and is often understated in theoretical discussions on the internet. When killing elk and deer last fall, we never once referenced a dope chart (other than checking DA in the morning).

All of these elements came together when I spotted for @Small-foot’s elk. We were glassing when several cows suddenly stepped out of the timber below us. She set up prone off her pack. I ranged them at 300 yards, gave her a quick drop elevation, and when they paused, she shot. I saw the bullet hit the shoulder of the cow and the elk moved at the sound of the impact. They moved out then back into view, but sagebrush now obstructed our view. She quickly moved forward and repositioned to a seated setup off her pack. I ranged 330, gave her the updated quick drop elevation, and then watched the elk drop on the second shot. The entire sequence took 45–60 seconds. There was no confusion, drama, or rodeo. That outcome would not have been as clean or even possible without what we learned in the previous year’s class.

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CLOTHING
Before attending the class, I typically wore a mix of Kuiu, Stone Glacier, First Lite, and other technical outdoor brands. After participating in the rewarming drill and learning more about the benefits of natural materials, I adjusted what I wear in the mountains, and also have a far better understanding and appreciation for how clothes move moisture and keep you warm and dry.

Woolnet base layers have been a major improvement. They keep me noticeably drier, warmer, and more comfortable than traditional merino base layers.

I still incorporate some synthetics — specifically a thin shirt over the woolnet to improve moisture transfer, protect it from brush, and avoid looking like I walked out of a German dance club. I also switched to an Alpha Direct midlayer, which dries faster, breathes better, and moves moisture more effectively than the grid fleeces I previously used. When paired with a wind jacket, it provides impressive warmth for the weight.

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I recently added a quality wool sweater to my system and rarely take it off because of how well it regulates temperature and breathes. It’s not an Atlantic Rancher Ranger, and I haven’t used one enough to compare the two.

Wind jackets are excellent and surprisingly underused in the hunting world. In most conditions, they outperform rain gear in terms of breathability, temperature regulation, and weight. I primarily hunt the Mountain West, so that perspective reflects relatively dry conditions compared to places like the PNW or Alaska. I haven’t yet tested a quality ventile jacket but plan to at some point.

I already owned a down puffy suit (SG Grumman) and was impressed with its performance during the rewarming drill. I wore it throughout hunting season without issue and was often warmer — and faster getting it on and off — than others I hunted with (see Pack section below). That said, I wore one of the anorak puffy prototypes at this year’s class, and the warmth and utility were on another level compared to the Grumman.

Western hunting is often portrayed as an extreme sport, which it isn’t when everything goes smoothly. However, it doesn’t take much for things to deteriorate. I’ve seen hypothermic trail runners in June, hunters forced to improvise tourniquets after broadhead injuries, and hypothermic snowmobilers with frostbitten hands despite insulated Gore-Tex suits and gloves. Having the right equipment and knowing how to use it can make a significant difference.

EQUIPMENT

A properly configured bino harness is extremely helpful. At the high end, look at how Form sets his up — essentially capable of supporting a night out on its own. At minimum, think intentionally about how you use yours and configure it to support those tasks. For rifle hunting, even just carrying a spare magazine on your non-dominant side and using rangefinding binoculars greatly increases your efficiency.

Before trying the SG bino harness, I retrofitted my Marsupial harness with a 5.11 pouch to hold a spare mag and wind meter. It integrated well and should work with most harnesses for those not wanting to replace their entire harness. https://www.511tactical.com/flex-utility-pouch.html

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I’ve been using a Teratorn pack for eight months across day hunts, backpacking trips, SAR missions, and general use. It’s difficult to beat in terms of accessibility. I’ll post a more detailed year-long review in July. In the context of this class and hunting, it’s important to organize your tripod, binos, and puffy suit for quick access. That accessibility saves valuable time during hunting situations and in emergencies, as demonstrated during the rewarming drill.

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This was a fantastic write-up, appreciate the time it took to put together so well. Amongst all the other info, your insights from SAR experience were also especially interesting. Especially noting how many calls resulted from bad decisions made at night.
 
Quick Drop works very well for what it is (a method to make fast, accurate hits on target), and if you use a set of ballistic capable binos you will lose the reps required to build the QD foundation that will backstop the rest of your shooting process. QD also will let you give/receive drops for almost any rifle with ease, meaning you can switch to your partner's gun in the middle of a shot string and still be effective, vs having to take out a phone and reference a chart or re-sync an app.

Just learning about QD now - that insight on reps vs relying on the onboard bino ballistic calculators really hit home.
 
Revics in BDC mode will give the angle compensated range, however for most of the shots in the field shooting portion of the class angles didn't come into play. I do wish it would only display the angle compensated range as a default. Mine were BLR10b's, not sure if the newer model displays the data that way.

A 540 yd LOS on a 15* slope will have a compensated range of 520 yds, so .2 mil (~3.9") difference between the two for the rifle/load I have up on my app right now. It matters less on closer shots, more on longer range where Quick Drop typically falls off in accuracy relative to a ballistic calculator. It probably won't cost you an animal, it may cost you a target in a competition though.
Ya, I remember that being a frustration with my BLR10bs and using them for archery. I checked the manual for the gen2 BR10s and it looks like they have the angle modified range as on option if you don't have a ballistic profile selected.

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I’m interested in hearing if anyone has more information about the rewarming drill.

I’m curious whether everyone submerged wearing just base layers and pants, or if people were also wearing their active insulation layer when they went in.

Also, what layers was everyone wearing, and how did they compare to others?
When I did it at last year's class, I wore what I'd been wearing hunting all season: merino wool base layers (top and bottom, and a mixture of kuiu and FL IIRC), fjallraven kebs, and a BD grid fleece midlayer. I then put on and SG grumman puff suit and climbed into a big agnes 0° down bag and started eating food, drinking hot liquids, and heating up nalgenes like everyone else.

My bottom half was starting to dry out after several hours, the waxed portions of the kebs don't soak up any water which helps. However the grid fleece soaked up a bunch of water and never dried, which kept my top half damp.

I believe @ztc92 wore a kuiu peloton during one and it did surprising well, and @Small-foot wore a wool sweater, and should've taken it off before climb into the bag in hindsight as it held a bunch of water.

This year, I believe @Cliff Gray wore a kifaru midlayer into it, and @Nine Banger wore an Atlantic rancher sweater.

There's some additional information on rewarming drill results in the threads below:



 
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