S2H Scope Interest

[SloppyJ]

Im going to try one for sure. Hoping the eye relief is plentiful. Give me an excuse to build another rifle.

 

[Jud96]

It’s just easier than counting to four repeatedly. My dope chart can be in either, but what’s easier to count to—6.2 or 21.25?

There are only really two advantages I see with MOA. The first is that the graduation is slightly finer. The other advantage is that they are rarely sold out and more likely to go on sale.

I mean if you’ve held out this long there might be no helping you, but I have to ask: what are the perceived advantages of MOA that make it so you could never switch?

I don’t count, I dial. To me MOA makes sense when it’s 1/4 based and close to inches like everything else I’m use to. I use inches and yards, so being able to convert inches to MOA is easy and fast for me. If I’m spotting through binos, a rangefinder, or a spotting scope I can make a very accurate guesstimate in MOA but have no clue what 6” is worth in MILs at 600, but in MOA I can say “hold 1 MOA left” when the shot misses 6” to the right. I can also still use my reticle in my scope to adjust for misses with MOA. So to me there’s literally zero reason to use MILs, 1/10ths aren’t any easier for me than 1/4s. To each their own.

 

[huntnful]

I said I was in for 2+. It seems good all the way around. And for $1000, I'd be sad if I only ordered one, and then loved it and had to wait 6 months for another one haha.

 

[HuntHarder]

I said I was in for 2+. It seems good all the way around. And for $1000, I'd be sad if I only ordered one, and then loved it and had to wait 6 months for another one haha.

Lol, I thought about that too. My thought process was, if I hate it, I can likely, easily sell it to someone on here.

 

[huntnful]

Lol, I thought about that too. My thought process was, if I hate it, I can likely, easily sell it to someone on here.

Exactly lol. But I just can’t foresee hating it honestly. I really liked most everything about the 3-18X44 Tenmile, and this seems better yet… and cheaper.

 

[glock233]

Listen there’s no debate MILS are better than MOA. Baby Jesus loves MILS.

But some people are trapped in the MOA ecosystem.

 

[HuntHarder]

Exactly lol. But I just can’t foresee hating it honestly. I really liked most everything about the 3-18X44 Tenmile, and this seems better yet… and cheaper.

Except the mils part. . Gonna have to make sure my binos are on mils when these guns come out.

 

[DangerRanger]

How many I am in for depends on the amount of the deposit, but I’m planning for 2

 

[huntnful]

Except the mils part. . Gonna have to make sure my binos are on mils when these guns come out.

Oh it’s an easy change dude. This reticle having .2 mil increments for the first mil of wind is nice IMO. You just quit thinking in inches all together. Just measure shit with the reticle and think in .1 Mils

 

[Mtndawger]

I’m in for one with a reasonable to me 30% or so deposit.

 

[schmidty3]

I don’t count, I dial. To me MOA makes sense when it’s 1/4 based and close to inches like everything else I’m use to. I use inches and yards, so being able to convert inches to MOA is easy and fast for me. If I’m spotting through binos, a rangefinder, or a spotting scope I can make a very accurate guesstimate in MOA but have no clue what 6” is worth in MILs at 600, but in MOA I can say “hold 1 MOA left” when the shot misses 6” to the right. I can also still use my reticle in my scope to adjust for misses with MOA. So to me there’s literally zero reason to use MILs, 1/10ths aren’t any easier for me than 1/4s. To each their own.

Yeah but your shot is 530 yards with a 6 mph crosswind what's your hold?

Standard 6.5 creed type round would be about 3.3 mils up and about .5 over and it took me 5x longer to type this sentence then to come up with that answer.

 

[Jud96]

Yeah but your shot is 530 yards with a 6 mph crosswind what's your hold?

Standard 6.5 creed type round would be about 3.3 mils up and about .5 over and it took me 5x longer to type this sentence then to come up with that answer.

Look at my dope card laying next to me and not hope my wind hack math is right lol

 

[dårlig jeger]

I'm in for 1 since it seems like a great design and a good value.

I might be in for two just because it's not offered in moa

 

[swavescatter]

I needed this scope two years ago. Instead, I ended up with 6 Mavens and really like those still. The incremental improvements just don’t pencil out $$$ wise.

Curious what maven does price wise once this scope becomes available in a year.

 

[Johnwell]

Why would you count to? Both #'s, you simply dial your scope to.

Lots of guys have 10-20 guns with scopes on them in MOA. Switching over is a pricey proposition. The juice has got to be worth the squeeze. Some guys think it is, others do not.

I guess I worded that wrong. I find 1/10ths easier than 1/4’s. In my mind, it seems easier to turn the turret till I see 6 and go a click; rather than turn the turret till I see 21 and go a click.

I don’t count, I dial. To me MOA makes sense when it’s 1/4 based and close to inches like everything else I’m use to. I use inches and yards, so being able to convert inches to MOA is easy and fast for me. If I’m spotting through binos, a rangefinder, or a spotting scope I can make a very accurate guesstimate in MOA but have no clue what 6” is worth in MILs at 600, but in MOA I can say “hold 1 MOA left” when the shot misses 6” to the right. I can also still use my reticle in my scope to adjust for misses with MOA. So to me there’s literally zero reason to use MILs, 1/10ths aren’t any easier for me than 1/4s. To each their own.

I agree, I don’t see much of a difference; But in my mind I have no idea how much 6” off the target is for either at, say, 837 yards. I would measure with the reticle for either solution. If I’m shooting with someone who is using MOA or has no subtensions I always give corrections in the universal unit of targets and smidges. “You’re a smidge low and a half target to the left.” If they have subtensions they can measure the target and get their corrections in a native MOA even if I spot in mills.

 

[MHWASH]

I was all in at first when it was reported to be 3-12, but I have no use for a top end of 18. Even 15 would have been doable.

 

[Kaleb]

I was all in at first when it was reported to be 3-12, but I have no use for a top end of 18. Even 15 would have been doable.

So could you just stop twisting it at 12? Just curious what makes a fella all in with a 3-12 but a 3-18 is a no go. 18 is more than I would need too but I figure I can just the magnification to the situation. Likely keeping it lower than expected and turn up if needed/wanted like everything else.

 

[Geewhiz]

So could you just stop twisting it at 12?

Oh, the humanity. I can't believe you would even suggest that.

 

[Johnwell]

I was all in at first when it was reported to be 3-12, but I have no use for a top end of 18. Even 15 would have been doable.

My lobster is too buttery and my steak is too juicy.

 

[MuleyFever]