S2H Scope Interest

[KU_Geo]

I am in, but no more than $100 deposit. They’ve obviously put time and money into getting a prototype, but I am not interested in fully derisking a start up business for them. They are going to have to take some risk on it.

 

[Wrongside]

If they have a distributor north of the 49th, I’ll definitely buy at least 1.

 

[RickF]

I would like to buy 1 or 2, but there is a factor for us in Canada that hasn’t been mentioned.

We have leaders throwing tariffs around, seemingly changing on a whim when their blood sugar twitches. The scope is less appealing if we are facing, as per today’s latest saber rattling, a 100% tariff.

 

[Formidilosus]

I would like to buy 1 or 2, but there is a factor for us in Canada that hasn’t been mentioned.

We have leaders throwing tariffs around, seemingly changing on a whim when their blood sugar twitches. The scope is less appealing if we are facing, as per today’s latest saber rattling, a 100% tariff.

Well…. That would make the scope be what it really should cost.

 

[glock233]

In for 1.

 

[RickF]

So you’re doubling the price for Americans to make it equally fair? Lol.

I would be happier with a doubled price with increased profit for you than handing $1000 over to one of our governments, we already spent too much in taxes.

 

[RickF]

I’m just saying it makes it tougher to make a firm commitment on a scope or two when you don’t know the price is $1000 or $2000 or who knows what.

 

[Formidilosus]

So you’re doubling the price for Americans to make it equally fair? Lol.

I would be happier with a doubled price with increased profit for you than handing $1000 over to one of our governments, we already spent too much in taxes.

It was a joke.

 

[Formidilosus]

I would be happier with a doubled price with increased profit for you than handing $1000 over to one of our governments, we already spent too much in taxes.

I realize I will have to continuously state this- but there is no profit for me for this scope.

 

[RickF]

Mine was a joke as well, sometimes our intentions don’t translate so well on a forum.

I understand that you’re not making a profit personally, sloppy wording on my part. I appreciate the effort to put into this, and I’ll happily buy you a beverage of your choice if we’re ever in the same room.

 

[House21]

I'd be in for one, Just depends on how hard it will be to get into Canada.

The reticle looks great from 3-18 and if they continue to hold up like they've shown so far it will be an awesome scope.

Also I appreciate not rushing this, to many companies/people rush things that could be great, but end up falling short because they didn't work out all the kinks or do enough testing. I'd rather wait a year and end up with a product that will last, than buy something that was rushed and then regret it.

 

[Firth]

In for 1. Maybe 2. I'm a tightwad and the SWFAs I currently own have treated me well for a bunch of years. This one looks like an upgrade worth the extra money though.

 

[260284]

I am in for one to start with.

 

[mtnbound]

I will commit to three as I mentioned in the other thread.

 

[Jud96]

I’d definitely be buying one no doubt if it was MOA. I have zero interest in MILs, I don’t understand the obsession with it. I’ll continue to buy Nightforces

 

[Johnwell]

I’d definitely be buying one no doubt if it was MOA. I have zero interest in MILs, I don’t understand the obsession with it. I’ll continue to buy Nightforces

It’s just easier than counting to four repeatedly. My dope chart can be in either, but what’s easier to count to—6.2 or 21.25?

There are only really two advantages I see with MOA. The first is that the graduation is slightly finer. The other advantage is that they are rarely sold out and more likely to go on sale.

I mean if you’ve held out this long there might be no helping you, but I have to ask: what are the perceived advantages of MOA that make it so you could never switch?

 

[MagnumHntr]

Ignore^^

Back to how many do you need!????

 

[Flymost]

As I stated in the other thread. I’m in for one.

 

[HuntHarder]

It’s just easier than counting to four repeatedly. My dope chart can be in either, but what’s easier to count to—6.2 or 21.25?

There are only really two advantages I see with MOA. The first is that the graduation is slightly finer. The other advantage is that they are rarely sold out and more likely to go on sale.

I mean if you’ve held out this long there might be no helping you, but I have to ask: what are the perceived advantages of MOA that make it so you could never switch?

Why would you count to? Both #'s, you simply dial your scope to.

Lots of guys have 10-20 guns with scopes on them in MOA. Switching over is a pricey proposition. The juice has got to be worth the squeeze. Some guys think it is, others do not.

 

[pathnz]

I'm going to say this with the most gentleness I know how to use. I'm not saying it to be mean, or argumentative, but I'm going to say it because it irks me that you believe that strongly enough to go to the trouble to say it.

Quick drop is a dead giveaway that you aren't that great at math and that you are for some reason predisposed to appeals to authority.

We've had yardage-marked BDC knobs for fifty years now, and y'all won't use them because you'd need to own, what, two, maybe three knobs, or do like I do and use glo-paint ($10 worth will last a decade) to smear an indicator on your elevation turret for 300/400/500 yards - and you think that's a bridge too far.

Then you'll turn around and blab about 'quick drop' like it was lightning in a bottle. I've even seen people post about adjusting their load to make 'quick drop' work. You'll literally downgrade your ballistics to make a turret do a trick we were doing (badly, I'll admit - the concept was sound, the implementation was not) before I was born, with yardage-marked turrets from Bushnell and Tasco and Redfield all through the 70's and 80's. Your 'hack' that legions of you appeal to, is nothing more than a poor substitute for the BDC turret we had decades ago. And if you needed multiple turret variations to make yardage-marked turrets work at different elevations, guess what? Your quick drops suffer from the same problem. They'll work across a band of elevations but not everywhere universally, so you either adjust your load or do....gasp.....more math.

Also - it's factually incorrect to say that there's no math involved. You're matching two numbers up (like, 3.9 for 390 or whatever) but that's still math. It's just math that you're not afraid of.

If you're wanting to reply further, just ask yourself.....why? It's a useless diversion. I've said my peace. I'd buy the mrad scope. It wouldn't be the first .mrad-based scope I have, likely not the last, but it wouldn't be my preference, either. And that's all it is - a preference. It's just a preference that dogmatic dudes have convinced each other is something more.

Yeah enthusiasm for quick drop is kinda funny when it's a worse solution than a paint marker for expedient field dope at mid ranges


Mils still rule tho