RokStok

[bielenbm]

Man if the carbon Rokstock is up to about 36.6 oz. Thats all the more reason for me to use my DIY wood one. I’m 37oz with butter pad, Mini arca, sling studs and mini pic rail

 

[Bcleck90]

What makes you think it will be next year? They have been on time with all 3 I have ordered.

Nobody really knows a timeline was my point. I’m glad your 3 have worked out well for you. I’m pulling for them just not a great feeling reading these posts on the expected timelines.

 

[TX_Mike D.]

I'm starting to look at ordering one or two of these. The increased weight shouldn't affect me too much since I don't have to actually carry the rifle around all day for the majority of the hunting I do. I also don't need them immediately so I can stand the weight times. I just don't want to have to send it back because of QC issues.

Being it is my first time order this stock I've got a few questions. Apologies for length and if any of this has been addressed previously, I wasn't able to find it in a quick search.

1. I have a Tikka T3x lite in .223 and a Tikka Roughtech in 6.5 CM that I was looking on getting the stocks for. What barrel channel should I order? I assumed the Factory Sporter, but when I emailed UM Alexander recommended Ace 3, Bart 3B, BM5 profile. He did say that the channels he recommended would give me the most options in the future if I ever re-barrel. What makes the most sense for my factory barrels? Would a wider channel have any negative effects?

2. Alexander also made it sound like I would ship my barreled actions to them, and they would custom fit the stocks to them. I thought I was just ordering the stock online and bolting it on myself when it arrived. What have most here done? My reading here makes me think it gets shipped to the individual to install themselves.

3. Is it worth adding the LOP kit? I'm a pretty averaged sized guy where the off the shelf sizes and lengths typically work well. My wife, who is smaller than me, will also be using these rifles. Alexander said they can put the smallest 1/4" spacer in and ship the others loose, but is it even worth doing that?

4. Is it worth adding the leather cheek rest and if so, does it ship installed or is that a DIY item shipped loose?

5. The description reads that QD cups come with the stock. Am I correct in that?

6. Is it worth getting the Trinity rail? I don't currently use a bi/tri pod that would require a rail, but I like having the options in the future.

 

[Speaks]

I'm starting to look at ordering one or two of these. The increased weight shouldn't affect me too much since I don't have to actually carry the rifle around all day for the majority of the hunting I do. I also don't need them immediately so I can stand the weight times. I just don't want to have to send it back because of QC issues.

Being it is my first time order this stock I've got a few questions. Apologies for length and if any of this has been addressed previously, I wasn't able to find it in a quick search.

1. I have a Tikka T3x lite in .223 and a Tikka Roughtech in 6.5 CM that I was looking on getting the stocks for. What barrel channel should I order? I assumed the Factory Sporter, but when I emailed UM Alexander recommended Ace 3, Bart 3B, BM5 profile. He did say that the channels he recommended would give me the most options in the future if I ever re-barrel. What makes the most sense for my factory barrels? Would a wider channel have any negative effects?

2. Alexander also made it sound like I would ship my barreled actions to them, and they would custom fit the stocks to them. I thought I was just ordering the stock online and bolting it on myself when it arrived. What have most here done? My reading here makes me think it gets shipped to the individual to install themselves.

3. Is it worth adding the LOP kit? I'm a pretty averaged sized guy where the off the shelf sizes and lengths typically work well. My wife, who is smaller than me, will also be using these rifles. Alexander said they can put the smallest 1/4" spacer in and ship the others loose, but is it even worth doing that?

4. Is it worth adding the leather cheek rest and if so, does it ship installed or is that a DIY item shipped loose?

5. The description reads that QD cups come with the stock. Am I correct in that?

6. Is it worth getting the Trinity rail? I don't currently use a bi/tri pod that would require a rail, but I like having the options in the future.

Just get a proof channel, it will have visible room around it but hurts nothing and can only help.

You send in for some actions but not Tikkas

Yea get the kit, most people need some extra, again cant hurt other than a small up charge

Maybe mabye not on cheek rest, I dont use one but would need to if I used higher rings.

Mine came with QD cups on the regulars.

I got the rails on mine

 

[Escalante11]

With the Rokstoks coming in 5-6 ounces heavier, it creates a bigger separation between it and the lite. This may very well be why they are heavier recently or Stockys QC is just that bad, idk.

Negative.. The RokStok Lites are also coming in 4 - 5 ounces heavier... My RokStok Lite is 27 - 28 ounces depending on the scale I use and with the Arca removed. Otherwise, it's the base model. UM advertises the base model to be 23 ounces on their website.

This is not just me, everyone who has picked up a RokStok Lite at the Expo, and has reported their weight here, reported weights materially higher than what UM has been marketing on here. UM has great products but it's really quite annoying.

 

[bpitcher]

I'm starting to look at ordering one or two of these. The increased weight shouldn't affect me too much since I don't have to actually carry the rifle around all day for the majority of the hunting I do. I also don't need them immediately so I can stand the weight times. I just don't want to have to send it back because of QC issues.

Being it is my first time order this stock I've got a few questions. Apologies for length and if any of this has been addressed previously, I wasn't able to find it in a quick search.

1. I have a Tikka T3x lite in .223 and a Tikka Roughtech in 6.5 CM that I was looking on getting the stocks for. What barrel channel should I order? I assumed the Factory Sporter, but when I emailed UM Alexander recommended Ace 3, Bart 3B, BM5 profile. He did say that the channels he recommended would give me the most options in the future if I ever re-barrel. What makes the most sense for my factory barrels? Would a wider channel have any negative effects?

2. Alexander also made it sound like I would ship my barreled actions to them, and they would custom fit the stocks to them. I thought I was just ordering the stock online and bolting it on myself when it arrived. What have most here done? My reading here makes me think it gets shipped to the individual to install themselves.

3. Is it worth adding the LOP kit? I'm a pretty averaged sized guy where the off the shelf sizes and lengths typically work well. My wife, who is smaller than me, will also be using these rifles. Alexander said they can put the smallest 1/4" spacer in and ship the others loose, but is it even worth doing that?

4. Is it worth adding the leather cheek rest and if so, does it ship installed or is that a DIY item shipped loose?

5. The description reads that QD cups come with the stock. Am I correct in that?

6. Is it worth getting the Trinity rail? I don't currently use a bi/tri pod that would require a rail, but I like having the options in the future.

Feel free to shoot me a PM if you'd like to shoot my Rokstok. It has the LOP kit, so you can kind of get a feel for what you like before you order.

 

[HuntHarder]

Negative.. The RokStok Lites are also coming in 4 - 5 ounces heavier... My RokStok Lite is 27 - 28 ounces depending on the scale I use and with the Arca removed. Otherwise, it's the base model. UM advertises the base model to be 23 ounces on their website.

This is not just me, everyone who has picked up a RokStok Lite at the Expo, and has reported their weight here, reported weights materially higher than what UM has been marketing on here. UM has great products but it's really quite annoying.

That's what I was saying. They are both heavier, so there is a gap between them. If the Rokstok stayed at it's original weight, they would only be 4 oz. Apart.

 

[2buffalo]

Hey everyone, finally got around to calling UM to ask about the increased weight, they did indeed confirm that the weight of the newer Rokstoks is more than the original batches, for durability reasons. They had to beef up a couple of areas of concern, notably the grip and the front of the inletting.

Must be some of the originals are breaking?

 

[WCT3]

Must be some of the originals are breaking?

I haven't read every post in this thread but I don't remember seeing any broken stocks. I feel like anyone who had that big of an issue would have posted here.

 

[HuntHarder]

@Unknown Munitions what is the reason for the Rokstok gaining 5-8oz? Has there been failures with high recoiling magnums, that maybe RS wouldn't know about?

 

[2buffalo]

I haven't read every post in this thread but I don't remember seeing any broken stocks. I feel like anyone who had that big of an issue would have posted here.

Why would they add reinforcement and weight unless there were some issues?

 

[Formidilosus]

Negative.. The RokStok Lites are also coming in 4 - 5 ounces heavier... My RokStok Lite is 27 - 28 ounces depending on the scale I use and with the Arca removed. Otherwise, it's the base model. UM advertises the base model to be 23 ounces on their website.

This is not just me, everyone who has picked up a RokStok Lite at the Expo, and has reported their weight here, reported weights materially higher than what UM has been marketing on here. UM has great products but it's really quite annoying.

UM has already addressed this. Stocky’s has been told to not ship any Lites that weigh more than 23oz. Not one stock after the show, and the heavy weight was found has been shipped to anyone.

 

[WCT3]

Why would they add reinforcement and weight unless there were some issues?

No, you're right that's probably the issue. I'm just surprised we haevn't seen or heard of any breaking.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Unknown Munitions what is the reason for the Rokstok gaining 5-8oz? Has there been failures with high recoiling magnums, that maybe RS wouldn't know about?

A few (4 I believe total out of 1,200 or so) got cracks in the comb- about 1oz of epoxy was added there to keep it from happening. RokStoks should be about 32oz +/- 1oz or so. The issue, is Stokys is inconsistent in how much epoxy gets applied, and no one was weighing every stock because it shouldn’t require it.

Anyone that wants to send a stock back and get another due to being overweight, or that wants to send it back and get refunded- UM will do so.

Why would they add reinforcement and weight unless there were some issues?

See above- 1oz or so should have been added: about 32-33oz +/- is what they should be.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

If you are unhappy with the weight send them in and get a refund

 

[Stockys]

Did they address it though? Me and a dozen or so others still got 28 oz bare RokStok Lites..

It was addressed on 3/2 when we were made aware the show stocks came in heavier. At that time the only stocks that were sent to UM were specifically for the hunt expo. Every lite that has shipped to UM has been 23 oz or less excluding the butt pad. I have weighed and marked every stock with the exact weight written on the box and on the stock that has been shipped after 3/2. I attached one photo for clarity

 

[Escalante11]

No I like the stock. The fact is though that Form is wrong, this hasn’t been addressed. No1 from UM has answered why the RokStok and RokStok Lite have gained weight despite a few weeks of murmurings on here that they are clearly aware of, and UM’s webpage still states ‘starting weights’ which are far from what we are observing on recently delivered stocks.

They shouldn’t advertise the stock’s weight being its stripped weight and not in a functional stage. When they say the stock weighs 23 ounces, that should include the base model features which UM themselves have stated is the pad, recoil lug, rear swivel stud, and the base paint, as it relates to the RokStok Lite.

I like the stock, all I'm saying is that I think it would be in UM’s best interest to change their product descriptions and marketing for the sake of transparency.

 

[Ryan Avery]

We jumped the gun on the lites in a rush for the Expo. As @Stockys mentioned, they have a system in place now for the lites. Once we receive the next shipment of lites, we will provide the weight for all options. If you want to swap for a lighter one or get a refund, let UM know. I think there are seven lites in the wild.

I weighed eight of the Rokstoks that came in last week; the average weight, with two flushcups and a trinity rail, was 32.4. I had Jake change the weight on the website.

 

[Escalante11]

We jumped the gun on the lites in a rush for the Expo. As @Stockys mentioned, they have a system in place now for the lites. Once we receive the next shipment of lites, we will provide the weight for all options. If you want to swap for a lighter one or get a refund, let UM know. I think there are seven lites in the wild.

I weighed eight of the Rokstoks that came in last week; the average weight, with two flushcups and a trinity rail, was 32.4. I had Jake change the weight on the website.

Appreciate the response here, thanks Ryan.

 

[Alpha Echo]

We jumped the gun on the lites in a rush for the Expo. As @Stockys mentioned, they have a system in place now for the lites. Once we receive the next shipment of lites, we will provide the weight for all options. If you want to swap for a lighter one or get a refund, let UM know. I think there are seven lites in the wild.

I weighed eight of the Rokstoks that came in last week; the average weight, with two flushcups and a trinity rail, was 32.4. I had Jake change the weight on the website.

Just so I'm clear then, my regular Rokstok (not lite) that comes in at 38.2 oz with Trinity rail and flush cups is out of spec?

A regular Rokstok should be 32ish oz? Or is that the Lites specifically?