Rifle scopes you'd love to see Form test

[Castle Rock]

and @SDHNTR - I don't have a link, but think it's been covered here before a couple-few years ago.

Short version as I recall it was that Ilya actually spoke with Form. Confirmed his bona fides. Found it hard to believe someone could shoot that much. Chalked the scope failures to a mount that had springs - which showed he wasn't familiar with the whole suite of tests. And continued to say that he 'liked the people at companies x, y, and z very much' and that they made 'durable' scopes (while mainly still commenting on reticle design and optical quality, and acknowledging that he doesn't shoot a lot).

Frankly, I pay him no attention anymore.

Yep, dark lord of smoke would be more appropriate

 

[RockAndSage]

Ilya was just asked about this again on SH yesterday and proceeded to mistakenly (?) say that Form had tested the Maven RS1.2 and Tract 2.5-15, then failed one and passed the other despite them being the "same scope" internally. As far as I can tell I see no record of the Tract 2.5-15 being tested though, so not sure what to make of that.

People who gaslight others use this exact tactic - they grasp for any tiny thread they think they can get traction with, and use it to try to discredit everything someone or a group is saying, trying to make you think everyone's crazy or misguided for believing their own eyes and experiences. Deny, redirect, counter-accuse.

Ilya would probably also argue the Sig 320 problems are user error.

 

[Frozenlead]

I’m curious. Got a link?

DLO live episode 96

Not sure if this is @Dobermann was talking about, but I came across it today. They start discussing it around the 20min mark.