Rem 700 detachable box magazine system needed.

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Good evening Roksliders. I have a Rem 700 XCR in 308 Winny and a few years ago switched over to a longer bullet (Berger 175gr. OTM) and couldn't be happier with it's performance!!! My trouble is reliable feeding, the COAL is hitting the dead nuts edge of length for the factory typical BDL internal floorplate mag, and I'm tired of fooling with it!!! I would like to know from the "Hunters" out there that have revised their setup to some sort of external magazine system. I need something that can handle a COAL of 2.835" or greater, has a low profile or hidden release, and is of alloy metal construction. For most of the states I hunt a maximum of 5 rounds for a magazine capacity is what is legal and I would like something as low-profile as possible in that capacity. I have looked at the Badger M5 and like it, so something of this style. What are you using and any thoughts and opinions are appreciated . Thank you.

 

[Wolfshead]

I’ve converted my 700. I’m not sure if this is what you’re looking for, but here are some pictures, and maybe they’ll help?
All metal.
Very easy conversion

 

[Hill Difficulty]

For less than $35, look up Wyatt's extended magazine boxes for BDL. The SA MBE allows 2.995 inches.

If you go M5 will need an inlet cut for the bottom of the stock. Most M5 detachable magazines allow 2.95 inches of cartridge length. Based on your description, look at the Hawkins Hunter DM @ $220 + $130 per magazine.

The Wyatt's operation is very knowledgable and accommodating. Send an email and expect follow up with the right solution.

Hope this helps!

 

[BBob]

FWIW a Wyatt’s extended mag box will require some machining of the action. It’s not a lot but it has to be done to make it work.

 

[Kurts86]

You need to do a few things to get more OAL and better feeding, the first is to open up the bdl stock to m5 aics which can be done with files and a dremel.

The 2nd thing to do is to notch the feed ramp for VLD bullets. That is plunge with a 1/4” end mill on a mill 1/8 deep so half the cutter is engaged.

Once you get aics magazines you want to buy ones with no binder plate for 0.100” extra coal. Those should get you out to 2.980” or so.

You can save on an M5 by using the magpul bottom metal and doing the inlet work yourself or you can pay a smith a few hundred dollars for all the mods.

These are all standard Remington 700 feeding problems present on both factory and many custom actions. Any gunsmith that does any rifle work should be able to do this work.

 

[BBob]

The 2nd thing to do is to notch the feed ramp for VLD bullets. That is plunge with a 1/4” end mill on a mill 1/8 deep so half the cutter is engaged.

Once you get aics magazines you want to buy ones with no binder plate for 0.100” extra coal. Those should get you out to 2.980” or so.

 

[xsn10s]

On the new remarms short actions they have the ramp already cut/ relieved to accept longer coal.

 

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Wolfshead -
I like the looks of that system you have. It looks a lot like my Tikka's only reversed with the mag release.

Thanks for all the heads-up on the M5 work that needs to be done. . .now I'm discouraged on that route, but at least you guys informed me on it.

What other options have you all used that fit my needs/requirements that DO NOT require a lot of fitting? Stock work and minor action work I have no issue with and would expect, I just do not have access to a Bridgeport any longer and there are no competent/skilled smiths within a few hours drive from me. . .just "parts changers"!!! Keep the comments coming and I appreciate your replies.

 

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Wolfshead - I checked out their website but did not see any info on what the internal COAL of the magazine is. Would you be able to measure yours and report back? Thank you.

 

[Wolfshead]

Wolfshead - I checked out their website but did not see any info on what the internal COAL of the magazine is. Would you be able to measure yours and report back? Thank you.

I just measured it with calipers at 3.343 inside edge to inside edge of magazine .

 

[Wolfshead]

I just measured a couple of my cartridges at 3.325 coal

 

[Hill Difficulty]

I just measured a couple of my cartridges at 3.325 coal

Note that the OP has a short action receiver.

 

[Wolfshead]

Note that the OP has a short action receiver.

Right!
I forgot he was looking for .308 and I was talking 30-06

 

[long hunter]

FWIW a Wyatt’s extended mag box will require some machining of the action. It’s not a lot but it has to be done to make it work.
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I run a Wyatt DBM on a Remington XCR in .308 basically the only thing that needed done was a small shim between the stock and the bottom metal attachment to the stock that came with the system it has worked flawless good lock up good feed easy install

 

[BBob]

I run a Wyatt DBM on a Remington XCR in .308 basically the only thing that needed done was a small shim between the stock and the bottom metal attachment to the stock that came with the system it has worked flawless good lock up good feed easy install

Good to know. A Wyatt DBM is not the same thing as the BDL extended box I referenced. I just posted the info on those boxes after Hill Difficulty suggested them so the OP knew that there were receiver mods required to use them. Same goes for the feed ramp notch after Hill Difficulty brought up the M5 DBM and AICS magazines.

 

[Hill Difficulty]

Nice work, Long Hunter .

FWIW, I'd go straight to Wyatt's to buy - they'll be thoughtful and immediately helpful + very familiar with an XCR's receiver cut and feed spec compatibility (vs legacy 700s).

 

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Is the 5 round mag on the Wyatt's flush to the bottom of the stock or does it protrude down passed the trigger guard? I would not care for something that sticks below the stock a great deal. Would it be possible for someone to post a pic? Wyatt's list a 2.880" internal max length capacity which will work out perfectly.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!! Take care.

 

[long hunter]

The system I have the box extends a bit out of the trigger guard not excessive the other thing is its a straight stack mag.