Reloading Shotgun for Tungsten - Guidance?

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Looking for a little guidance on where to start in reloading 12ga for tungsten shot. I've been experimenting with various companies' loaded shells on ducks, and have decided it's the way I want to go. It's been hammering waterfowl in ways steel and bismuth just don't, and the cost of the TSS is worth it to me to have far fewer cripples, given how little opportunity I have to actually get into birds here in Nevada.

I reload pistol and a little rifle on a Dillon 550, but have zero experience with loading shotgun. I wasn't interested in it at all until experiencing the TSS shells in the field, and now looking into the cost/benefit of rolling my own. More importantly though is that I want to be able to work up and tailor my own loads.

So, given all that, what should I be looking for in a good reloading machine? What should I watch out for? Quality matters, but at the same time I'd likely be handloading less than 300 rounds a year with it. Probably half that at best.

Any experience loading TSS you could share?
 
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I used to load Hevishot when we duck hunted a lot 20 years ago. With the volume you are looking at you can get a basic single stage press like a Mec 600 Jr. We were used to using 3-1/2" 12ga steel shot loads for ducks and geese and had a hard time wrapping our heads around using #4 Hevishot in 2-3/4" shells crushing birds. Looking at the newer TSS stuff, I would stick with the 2-3/4" shells and use #6-#7 shot probably, 1-1/8oz loads with some speed.
 
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Here you go. This IS the answer to your problems. For the amount you are going to reload, this will suffice. I have reloaded THOUSANDS of shells with one of these.
 
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I recently bought a MEC 600 Jr.
Havent set it up yet as it's hunting season but should
have it rolling by next season.
Was planning on loading Bismuth but may try Tungsten.
 
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In a 12 GA for waterfowl, you will want to duplex with steel for tss.


I'd look at Bucks Run and go the hw13 route.


Understand that loading shotshell is different than metallic, you don't work up loads, you don't swap components, little changes can make big pressure swings.


Find good data, then pick what you want. Play with wads, how they are cut, and chokes. That's about as much as you can do.

I use Mec and PW, the PW is nice because of how it supports the shell, sometimes the mec takes a little playing and adjusting to get the crimp right.

Really for the volume you are looking at, might just roll crimp.
 

Bluefish

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For low volume tss loading a mec Jr is my choice. Find a recipe and follow it exactly. Then go shoot. Hal Abbot, aka hawglips is the tss guru.
 

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My best advice is to buy your shot from someone who will provide you with tested load data. Shotgun loading is different from pistol/rifle. 12 gauge TSS is way overkill for ducks and geese. Many people are killing ducks with 28 gauge and 410s. The 28s are duplexed with steel 4. I just load for turkey and don't even use a loader. Just a drill press to roll crimp the shells. 20 gauge 2 &3/4 with an ounce and a half 0f 9 shot will kill turkeys way farther than they should be shot. I have yet to use this on ducks or geese but have heard/read that the results are devastating on geese at 50 yards. The biggest hurdle will be obtaining the proper components. Good luck and be careful. You don't mix and match like metallic reloading.

2GBL
 
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This is all great advice, and very much the kind of info I was hoping to hear. Thank you. Definitely didn't realize just how big of a difference reloading shotshells is from centerfire rifle and pistol, big thanks for the heads-up on all that as well.
 

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I've been reloading 12 ga duck & goose rounds for about 20 years now. There is very good and solid information in this thread regarding sticking with proven published recipes and not mixing & matching, like we do with metallic. If you go with 12 ga., duplexing #8 or 9 TSS with steel is something you might want to consider, still very deadly and you can save a few $$.
 

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I picked up some of the Hevi-Shot tungsten/steel loads. I believe they're 3 shot steel with 6 shot tungsten. I have 3 boxes of that and 3 of the straight bismuth I'm testing this year on ducks. Excited to see how they do. I went 3" instead of 3.5" and pondered the 2-3/4s even.

I reload metallic but if the results are that much better with the tungsten, I was going to look into reloading them just as you are.

What's everyone's spot for good tungsten? I don't shoot a ton of shotgun shells through the year so I'm trying to price it all out to weigh the ROI.
 
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