Recommend a truck...

I got a new Sierra 1500 last April with the little diesel. Thing tows a 10k camper going 70 up a pass, gets 28-30 mpg on my commute to and from work.

Averages 24 mpg over the 16k miles I have on it, with towing, and doing 90mph a lot in montana southern idaho and wyoming for shoots and hunts.
 
I got a new Sierra 1500 last April with the little diesel. Thing tows a 10k camper going 70 up a pass, gets 28-30 mpg on my commute to and from work.

Averages 24 mpg over the 16k miles I have on it, with towing, and doing 90mph a lot in montana southern idaho and wyoming for shoots and hunts.
I’ve read good things about that motor….at least compared to other options.
 
I got a new Sierra 1500 last April with the little diesel. Thing tows a 10k camper going 70 up a pass, gets 28-30 mpg on my commute to and from work.

Averages 24 mpg over the 16k miles I have on it, with towing, and doing 90mph a lot in montana southern idaho and wyoming for shoots and hunts.
They do offer that motor in the 1500 ZR2, but I shudder at thinking about dealing with the emissions nonsense. But then again, @ResearchinStuff says the 6.2 sucks as well. And Fords. And Toyotas.
 
I find all new vehicles infuriatingly complicated. All the tech is intrusive and totally unnecessary. I hate auto braking, lane keep assist, blind spot, parking monitors, etc. Add to that excessive costs and terrible reliability (including latest gen of Toyota trucks/suvs) and I doubt I will ever buy anything made after 2017 or so. I think the 2nd gen Tundra/Sequoia are the best overall vehicles on the road. If you can tolerate the slightly smaller size and lighter duty design, first gen Tundra/Sequoia are probably even more reliable in the extreme.

I think I'd take a 10 year old Tundra/Sequoia with 100k miles for 20-30k over anything new. Oh wait, I did!

Just remember, you can buy A LOT of maintenance for the interest and monthly payments on a new car.
 
I do think the Tundra issue is greatly exaggerated. They are at a ~1% failure rate. That’s high, but some guys would make you think it’s 50%
 
I find all new vehicles infuriatingly complicated. All the tech is intrusive and totally unnecessary. I hate auto braking, lane keep assist, blind spot, parking monitors, etc. Add to that excessive costs and terrible reliability (including latest gen of Toyota trucks/suvs) and I doubt I will ever buy anything made after 2017 or so. I think the 2nd gen Tundra/Sequoia are the best overall vehicles on the road. If you can tolerate the slightly smaller size and lighter duty design, first gen Tundra/Sequoia are probably even more reliable in the extreme.

I think I'd take a 10 year old Tundra/Sequoia with 100k miles for 20-30k over anything new. Oh wait, I did!

Just remember, you can buy A LOT of maintenance for the interest and monthly payments on a new car.
The beauty is that some companies still offer a very basic truck that doesn’t have all the bells and whistles. Think F-250 XL. Pretty basic, but has what you need.
 
Oh FFS. If I hear that pre 21 Tundras are the only truck worth buying, I'm going to vomit. They are reliable. And that really is where the pluses end compared to everything out on the road. Pre-22 Tundras don't have factory front or rear lockers or even available tranny coolers for towing. For the purposes of this discussion assume that Toyota never made a truck prior to 22.
 

I had 2 family road trips last year where we were unexpectedly came home in a different vehicle than we left in. 2 transmissions on 2 totally different vehicles, one with under 50k miles. Jaded is an understatement.

My one bil is waiting for his second new 6.2 L engine in the last 7 months. Another just had the lifters go in his 5.3. none of these vehicles had been used hard.
 
I do think the Tundra issue is greatly exaggerated. They are at a ~1% failure rate. That’s high, but some guys would make you think it’s 50%

And they are replacing motors.
That's thousands of trucks. A friend had his 3rd gen shit itself and die 6hrs from home in the middle of a hunt. $2k tow that Toyota covered, to THE NEAREST DEALER, which was 5hrs from home. He then had to fly home, wait 4 weeks, and fly back to pick it up. No loaner, hunt trip destroyed, lots of out of pocket expense. Oh, and his motor was rebuilt on the shop floor by who-knows-who, maybe a teenager, maybe a guy who has only ever done tires and oil before. F*%k that noise.

The beauty is that some companies still offer a very basic truck that doesn’t have all the bells and whistles. Think F-250 XL. Pretty basic, but has what you need.
They might seem basic, but they still have complex computer systems running everything, sensors that can fail, and frankly shitty design and materials that have become the norm. Plastic engine parts, one time use connectors, designs that are incredibly hard to maintain, etc, etc.
 
I had 2 family road trips last year where we were unexpectedly came home in a different vehicle than we left in. 2 transmissions on 2 totally different vehicles, one with under 50k miles. Jaded is an understatement.

My one bil is waiting for his second new 6.2 L engine in the last 7 months. Another just had the lifters go in his 5.3. none of these vehicles had been used hard.
So what do you get then, if everything is trash? I'm not being a d*ck. It's a serious question. do you know anything about the 3.0 diesel?
 
Oh FFS. If I hear that pre 21 Tundras are the only truck worth buying, I'm going to vomit. I got it. They are reliable. And that really is where the pluses end compared to everything out on the road. I'm not going to replace my truck with something that is basically the same thing. We have to move on to trucks built since 22...
You go for it. If you plan to lease or sell before warranty ends, who even cares (other than multiple examples of inconvenient and expensive failures given here). But that approach costs 2-4x what buying (especially used) and owning for 10+years does, and I'd argue with the state of modern designs, you are getting something LESS reliable.

But if you need a computer to back your trailer for you, and you like it when the computer grabs your brakes when you're going to pass someone because it decided you were getting too close, then you're right, the old school trucks aren't for you!
 
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Great engine (on paper).
 
I got a new Sierra 1500 last April with the little diesel. Thing tows a 10k camper going 70 up a pass, gets 28-30 mpg on my commute to and from work.

Averages 24 mpg over the 16k miles I have on it, with towing, and doing 90mph a lot in montana southern idaho and wyoming for shoots and hunts.
My only real hesitation is adding the ZR2 package drops the tow capacity to 8.8k.
 
I have a 3rd car - a little Toyota for commuting. Since I got that car, I don't use my truck for driving to work. It pays for itself in gas savings.
7.3 F250 or F350 tremor is my pick in that case although a GM 6.6 Gas ZR2 would likely be fine as well. I just prefer Ford.
 
So what do you get then, if everything is trash? I'm not being a d*ck. It's a serious question. do you know anything about the 3.0 diesel?
Just told you up above haha.

Really depends what you want out of the vehicle. I'll take boring, reliable, and affordable all day. I have kids and dogs, take my rig down trails and scrape it up, tow a boat and launch it in saltwater, and I know how to drive and wrench on it. So it works for me.
 
So what do you get then, if everything is trash? I'm not being a d*ck. It's a serious question. do you know anything about the 3.0 diesel?

Something with a warranty, because I'm going to need it. Currently have 2 suburbans, because that's the thing that works best for the stage my family is in.
 
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