Rattlesnake

[Kilboars]

Those could really ruin your day..

 

[UncleNommies]

In the southeast, rattlesnakes will let you pass by but copperheads are hard to see and will pursue you. Snake boots are required.

I was hunting south Ga when I was younger, had to make a large leap over a creek to get to where i was hunting. Made the jump, took about 2 steps and all I could see were these yellow things, then i realized it was the tails of a bunch of young copperheads. Back across the creek i went!

 

[EastHumboldt]

I was fishing last summer on the East Walker river. I was standing in a depression on the bank with abunch of weeds around my feet. I have tinnitus and some hearing loss, so with the rushing noise of the river I heard what I thought was someone’s drag going out. I kept looking into the river for another fisherman but didn’t see anyone. Then the light came on. I looked down, and there was a smallish Great Basin rattler about a foot from my boot. He was just coiled up and trying to tell me not to step on him, so I just eased way from him and gave him a pass.

 

[USMC-40]

Reading this thread about people taking shooting sticks, shovels, hoes to rattlesnakes…..

I live on the eastern shore of Maryland and we have very, very few copperheads here and no rattlesnakes. So I have no real experience with poisonous snakes. Is a rattlesnake striking distance so limited that hitting them with a shovel is pretty much a risk free thing?

They can strike further than I expected the first time
I was playing with one with a stick - when he struck he almost got me. I read somewhere they can strike 1.5x their length - so your average 4’ timber rattler can get you 6’ away.

 

[43.6N]

Reading this thread about people taking shooting sticks, shovels, hoes to rattlesnakes…..

I live on the eastern shore of Maryland and we have very, very few copperheads here and no rattlesnakes. So I have no real experience with poisonous snakes. Is a rattlesnake striking distance so limited that hitting them with a shovel is pretty much a risk free thing?

You also want to take note of how they are coiled.

If the coils are behind the head, they can strike their full distance.
If the coils are in front of the head, strike range is much shorter.

Look at the two coiled snakes @Owens posted pictures of: one has the full mass of his coils positioned so its head is in front of the center of gravity. It is poised for a full length strike.

The other has its coils in front of its raised head. It would need to reposition in order to leverage its center of gravity for a strike.

One technique we would use when catching rattlesnakes was to circle around until the coils were in front of the head specifically to limit their striking range.

I've come across plenty running on trails or at the archery range in the Denver area. The one in the first pic was annoyed when we got there because a mountain bike had just gone through. The second pic was just off the main path at the archery range.

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[MTlan66]

Reading this thread about people taking shooting sticks, shovels, hoes to rattlesnakes…..

I live on the eastern shore of Maryland and we have very, very few copperheads here and no rattlesnakes. So I have no real experience with poisonous snakes. Is a rattlesnake striking distance so limited that hitting them with a shovel is pretty much a risk free thing?

I guess when you grow up around poisonous snakes, you have a sense of what they can and can’t do, and how they behave. I have seen a lot of very large rattlesnakes killed with shovels, but only one myself that was over about 3 1/2’. I certainly prefer a firearm! I killed a smaller rattlesnake (2 1/2’ or so) once with a guitar case, as that was all I had available. Not recommended, but if I did it again, I would remove the guitar first .

 

[*zap*]

Woke up with a rattler tucked in next to my sleeping bag.
No floorless for me unless it is below 40° for a high temp.

 

[Taudisio]

Reading this thread about people taking shooting sticks, shovels, hoes to rattlesnakes…..

I live on the eastern shore of Maryland and we have very, very few copperheads here and no rattlesnakes. So I have no real experience with poisonous snakes. Is a rattlesnake striking distance so limited that hitting them with a shovel is pretty much a risk free thing?

In my experience, they can only strike about 1/2 their length, so a 6 footer will hit about 3ft away when they are coiled and ready. My favorite weapon was a driver (golf club) that the head snapped off. Quick, and I could pull the snake back when they tried to escape before I hit them. I don’t remember how many I killed with that thing. A shovel is alright, but in rocky terrain the head can be difficult if the snake was between rocks, and they are a bit unwieldy.

 

[Dexter Grayson]

The word is venomous boys, not poisonous!

 

[MaddMatt]

From my unofficial research it seems like most rattlesnake bites happen in the southern snake handling churches. Like generational deaths by rattlesnake, grandfather, father, son.


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My dad worked with a fella who met his end during a snake service. At his funeral they busted out serpents again and his daughter met her end.

 

[RockAndSage]

You also want to take note of how they are coiled.

If the coils are behind the head, they can strike their full distance.
If the coils are in front of the head, strike range is much shorter.

Look at the two coiled snakes @Owens posted pictures of: one has the full mass of his coils positioned so its head is in front of the center of gravity. It is poised for a full length strike.

The other has its coils in front of its raised head. It would need to reposition in order to leverage its center of gravity for a strike.

One technique we would use when catching rattlesnakes was to circle around until the coils were in front of the head specifically to limit their striking range.

This is some great info, learned a bunch just now.

 

[bridgerbenson]

In my experience, they can only strike about 1/2 their length, so a 6 footer will hit about 3ft away when they are coiled and ready. My favorite weapon was a driver (golf club) that the head snapped off. Quick, and I could pull the snake back when they tried to escape before I hit them. I don’t remember how many I killed with that thing. A shovel is alright, but in rocky terrain the head can be difficult if the snake was between rocks, and they are a bit unwieldy.

This has been my experience as well with their reach. I’ve killed them with about everything from a fishing pole to a broken off fence post to a ratchet strap to an arrow. Used to catch them live in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid, then toss in a freezer and freeze whole for a taxidermist. In my younger partying days, I woke up to a 2 footer rattling on the foot of my bed that I had stuffed into one of those mesh window visor zippered bags and took partying for the night. Took him out and released him in a prairie dog town because I felt bad for giving him such a long night.


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[Lowedown]

True, that one was a long time ago and I must have felt like it wasn't safe to keep going after this one for whatever reason. Need a pretty big rock though lol. Keep in mind, we often find them in pairs (a big one and a little one) and the one you see has your focus. Sometimes it's best to just let them be. I don't know the actual stats but I've heard that most of the rattlesnake bites happen when people are trying to catch or kill them.

Good thing to mention! I was also taught they are often not alone, and therefore freeze and look around carefully before moving or reaching down to get a rock! My Grandma once grabbed a rattler thinking it was a rock to throw at another! thankfully it didn't strike, but it sure taught her a lesson!

My uncle Randy was climbing a 15' cliff out of a draw in the high dessert down near Glass Buttes here in Oregon in his late teens when he had a scary encounter. As he was nearing the top of the cliff he pulled himself up eye level with a horizontal crevice that went about 18"' back into the cliff. As he rose up to that level he heard a very loud and long HISSS sound and realized he was face to face with a huge coiled rattler that was shaking a broken tail 12" in front of his nose! He remembers launching himself backwards into space and landing hard only to take off running for camp!

 

[Andrew12gauge]

My dad worked with a fella who met his end during a snake service. At his funeral they busted out serpents again and his daughter met her end.

Forgive me for saying this, hopefully that gene pool ended there


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[HairyScandinavian]

Reading this thread about people taking shooting sticks, shovels, hoes to rattlesnakes…..

I live on the eastern shore of Maryland and we have very, very few copperheads here and no rattlesnakes. So I have no real experience with poisonous snakes. Is a rattlesnake striking distance so limited that hitting them with a shovel is pretty much a risk free thing?

As others have stated about 1/2 their length but an aggressive one can probably stretch that out some if he really wanted to. When they strike they stretch and are exposed so they tend to not want to stretch out fully for their own safety. With a flat nose shovel I'll poke at them until they give up their coil and make a run for it then they're not able to get much distance. I've had a couple come at me, same result, and I've had some I had to shovel dirt or sand at them or toss something to get them to uncoil. Once they're stretched out their range is severely limited.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

I guess when you grow up around poisonous snakes, you have a sense of what they can and can’t do, and how they behave. I have seen a lot of very large rattlesnakes killed with shovels, but only one myself that was over about 3 1/2’. I certainly prefer a firearm! I killed a smaller rattlesnake (2 1/2’ or so) once with a guitar case, as that was all I had available. Not recommended, but if I did it again, I would remove the guitar first .

We carry rat shot in 22lr revolvers also. I don't like the loud bang so almost never use it, but if I can't access them or safely get close I'll use it. The only time I ever almost got bit aside from the small 2nd snake in my garage I didn't notice while dealing with the big one was a snake I shot in the head. Seems the bird shot/rat shot just knocks them out. If you behead them they squirm all over, but a bird shot to the noggin they just completely go dead/limp with zero muscle movement whatsoever. I've shot a few dozen probably over the years and it usually went the same way, completely limp snake, cut head off with my pocket knife and then 5 minutes later they start squirming all over. This time I shot one that had made it into a thick bush and he went limp like that completely, reached in and grabbed him by the tail and when I stood up to pull him out he curled back at me. Pretty eye opening seeing the mouth open so wide it almost looked like it was gonna come inside out and those fang good Lord... It happened so freaking fast but I let go of the tail just in time for him to lose leverage with the wide open mouth probably 10" from my belly button. That was about a 5 footer, not the biggest but big enough.

 

[MaddMatt]

Forgive me for saying this, hopefully that gene pool ended there


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The grandkids are still kicking, my coworker coached them in little league a few years back.

 

[Jusgunn3]

I haven’t tried snake/rat shot out of a 22, I have a snake grabber like the pros thats about 5-6 feet long. This gives me the ability to grab them at distance and hold them until I am ready to shovel that head off. Obviously not an ideal peace to tote around in the woods but I keep in on my ranger around the ranch. The 12ga is in the cab for anything I can’t grab or anything trying to grab me

 

[KifaruUser]

That's a baby sidewinder. Kind of rare to find, but it is interesting watching them slither sideways like that. They save a lot of energy doing that.

Nah those guys drink the venom, it's crazy.

Stomach acids can handily break down snake venom. In the bloodstream, that's another thing.

Mostly, the smart snake handling preachers would milk the snakes first to make them much less dangerous. There was an episode of Justified where a milked snake handling preacher was dared by a heckler to handle an unmilked freshly caught snake resulting in his demise.

 

[stevevan]

I'll stay up here on the frozen tundra thank you!