Rangefinding Binos Ballistic App = When?

[mahonsr]

My question is in what scenarios do you “need” your rangefinding binos to have the ballistic app feature? Is it a distance thing? Time thing? Complexity thing - I.e multiple rifles/calibers? I’ve read several times that if you need a ballistic app than get XX and if you don’t need one get YY. But what causes the “need”?

 

[MuleyFever]

You don't need to have anything. People killed animals before rangefinders. RF binos with a ballistics app are nice because they make ranging and getting ballistics faster by a couple of seconds and its just convenient.

 

[mahonsr]

You don't need to have anything. People killed animals before rangefinders. RF binos with a ballistics app are nice because they make ranging and getting ballistics faster by a couple of seconds and its just convenient.

So in your opinion the “need” or value is probably a better term is speed?

 

[MuleyFever]

So in your opinion the “need” or value is probably a better term is speed?

Yeah. When you can spot the target and range it with ballistics in one motion it gives you an advantage. Do you need it? Not in most situations.

 

[mtnbound]

My question is in what scenarios do you “need” your rangefinding binos to have the ballistic app feature? Is it a distance thing? Time thing? Complexity thing - I.e multiple rifles/calibers? I’ve read several times that if you need a ballistic app than get XX and if you don’t need one get YY. But what causes the “need”?

I would say it saves time, but it depends on how you have your setup and how much you practice. If you spotted an animal with your binos and got the range with them but no ballistic solution, you dig your phone out of your pocket, and if you saved your data as your phone's background, it can be fast, maybe not as fast as using binos with built-in ballistic solving. If you carry your ballistic chart taped to your rifle or have custom turrets with distance marks for dialing, both can reduce time.
Proficiency with whatever system you use is IMO the most important factor.

 

[mahonsr]

@mtnbound yah makes sense. I’m more trying to learn in what situations/conditions is it considered significantly advantageous and if that would fit my own use case. I thought maybe it was the onboard environmentals that many of the products have all have / but I was surprised at how little changes to DA impacted any adjustments when playing around with my shooter app on the mountain at the ranges I’d shoot.

 

[Wprinkle]

There is a lot to unpack. 1. It is more than a few seconds faster its closer to 20 IIRC when the tests were done. Example test you can run. Walk along, spot an object with you eyes, verify its a "legal" animal with binos, pull out your range finder find it again, range it, check dope chart, build shooting position, dial and shoot all without forgetting anything. Now with range finding binos walk along, spot object, verify and range, build position and fire.

2. As to the ballistic app. If you shoot mils and know quickdrop all you need is a range and holds. Past 600ish quick drop has some issues so you have to dial so that's where the ballistics app makes this even faster.

3. As stated above you don't "need" any of it but you will 100% be faster and more efficient. It really helps if you are still a MOA shooter as that math is a PITA and slow. Shooting Mils with quickdrop has been unequivocally proven to be the fastest most efficient method.

 

[mahonsr]

There is a lot to unpack. 1. It is more than a few seconds faster its closer to 20 IIRC when the tests were done. Example test you can run. Walk along, spot an object with you eyes, verify its a "legal" animal with binos, pull out your range finder find it again, range it, check dope chart, build shooting position, dial and shoot all without forgetting anything. Now with range finding binos walk along, spot object, verify and range, build position and fire.

2. As to the ballistic app. If you shoot mils and know quickdrop all you need is a range and holds. Past 600ish quick drop has some issues so you have to dial so that's where the ballistics app makes this even faster.

3. As stated above you don't "need" any of it but you will 100% be faster and more efficient. It really helps if you are still a MOA shooter as that math is a PITA and slow. Shooting Mils with quickdrop has been unequivocally proven to be the fastest most efficient method.

sounds like speed and than correcting past 600 yds would be the value you’d see to equate to the “need”? Appreciate the input

 

[Wprinkle]

sounds like speed and than correcting past 600 yds would be the value you’d see to equate to the “need”? Appreciate the input

For the Ballistic Binos yes, if using mils and quickdrop.. But rangefinding binos are faster than a Bino and rangefinder separately.