Rain Gear

ridgefire

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I know this has been asked a bunch of times but going to ask anyways. I have been using my Simms Paclite Goretex jacket and pants for my hunting rain gear and the stuff is great for a light durable shell that keeps you completely dry but is to loud for my liking. What my priorities are is keeping me dry, light, durable and quiet. Would prefer it to be camo as it will be used strictly for hunting, mainly archery. What do you suggest.
 

Whitetoptom

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Cabelas MTO50


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Looked at that line just a few minutes ago. MT050 paclite jacket. It looked to be well made and acceptably light. Brushed shell seemed quiet enough. I'm hoping they put it on sale soon. 199$ not to bad a price if it turns out to be good quality.

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Florida Bow Hunter

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Looked at that line just a few minutes ago. MT050 paclite jacket. It looked to be well made and acceptably light. Brushed shell seemed quiet enough. I'm hoping they put it on sale soon. 199$ not to bad a price if it turns out to be good quality.

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As good as quality as you will find without a doubt, without spending a ton.

Works great.


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Whitetoptom

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I'm really looking at it seriously. I can get by with what I have now, hoping they put them on sale soon. I know that they put the MT050 stuff on sale at some point last fall. I am 5 minutes away from cabelas so I still keep a fairly close eye on what they have on sale.

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Florida Bow Hunter

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Any idea on how the MT050 stuff compares to the Sitka rain gear?

Prolly half price ? Lol

I love Sitka and Kuiu stuff. Great materials but over priced.

Dry is dry isn’t it ? I hunt south Florida, basically a tropical jungle. So I get rained on, like every time out. I own so many different rain jackets. I like Goretex best I guess ? MTO50 keeps you dry, stalks quiet, draws a bow quiet. A bit too heavy most of the year in my area so I wear it mainly in winter here. Up north, it’s perfect.

I also own Russell which is excellent low budget stuff. UA I have too and it’s over priced I’d say.

Cabelas has a packable set of rain gear that ball up in two pouches I use in the hotter weather here. Bit noisey but works great.

Being I bass fished here too for many years, I always buy bibs instead of pants when I’m seriously trying to stay dry. I hate cold rain going down my arse crack. Lol ,,,, always happens with pants instead of bibs. But I’ve been using suspenders which helps.


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Stroke250

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I’d look at the Sixsite rain gear. They are a lower price now too than when they first came out.
 
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Prolly half price ? Lol

I love Sitka and Kuiu stuff. Great materials but over priced.

Dry is dry isn’t it ? I hunt south Florida, basically a tropical jungle. So I get rained on, like every time out. I own so many different rain jackets. I like Goretex best I guess ? MTO50 keeps you dry, stalks quiet, draws a bow quiet. A bit too heavy most of the year in my area so I wear it mainly in winter here. Up north, it’s perfect.

I also own Russell which is excellent low budget stuff. UA I have too and it’s over priced I’d say.

Cabelas has a packable set of rain gear that ball up in two pouches I use in the hotter weather here. Bit noisey but works great.

Being I bass fished here too for many years, I always buy bibs instead of pants when I’m seriously trying to stay dry. I hate cold rain going down my arse crack. Lol ,,,, always happens with pants instead of bibs. But I’ve been using suspenders which helps.


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The main difference you get with the high end brands is the technical fabrics and a 3 layer membrane which breathes much better when walking or hiking around.
 
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I mostly live and fish in South Florida, but spend a lot of time fishing and hunting in Louisiana and elsewhere. Inshore, offshore, creeks, and rivers. Hours of running in the Marsh. I have Simms of a many variety, both Goretex and Toray. The Goretex has all failed me, and I haven't appreciated their explanations when I provided feedback. Next. Don't have a lot of hours on the Toray bibs, but so far its been fine. This can be had much cheaper on sale. I use these in Florida where it does not matter.

I've got Sitka kit, mostly of the fancy pants duck hunting variety, but construction should be the same as their other lines. My rain gear has been flawless, and that is preferable where we use it. Pretty dangerous conditions considering the remote nature of our ventures. That said, its very expensive, and their warranty is still a bit of a question mark to me. I've had both clients and friends that have had issues with their rain gear, earlier generation stuff, and they were required to send it to some place that handles the warranty work for Sitka. The response sounded similar to Simms. Hopefully that has changed. I don't wear this in Florida.

All of my Patagonia shells have failed. The interior falls apart or they saturate. Patagonia fixes this, and with that, I am a happy customer. Maybe I am just unlucky. I wear this everywhere, Florida to Wyoming.

Colombia, haven't had a single issue. Best part, I buy these jackets on sale for $60 or so retail. Cant have too many rain jackets for friends and clients. Are they breathable? I honesty cannot say. I don't really think any of them are, at least with the humid conditions we normally experience. These typically don't have a "liner", and can be a little sticky. Mostly used fishing in Florida and Louisiana.

Mountain Hardware, which I believe is owned by Colombia, has also been great. These typically have a liner, and are comfy in most conditions. I use these everywhere.

I've got a variety of mountaineering/hiking brand stuff. I generally consider it too nice to keep in a hatch, so it doesn't see that much rough use, but its all been good. Marmot, OR, Arc'teryx ect.

Most of us on boats all agree... Goretex and all that mess is not reliable. Rubber is. A lot of guys run snowmobile suits and heavy ocean rated sailing gear. This stuff is expensive, very expensive. Not packable.

So to wrap up, I don't think spending top dollar on packable rain gear is a worthwhile expenditure. As you can tell, I, for whatever reason, really like jackets. When I am packing rain gear as a "just in case", I always grab the cheap(er) stuff (lets face it, the average person would probably think $60ish for a flimsy rain coat is ridiculous). I think my boat bag currently has a Colombia rain jacket and set of Northface packable rain pants. My truck has a Mountain Hardware, it looks cooler. My boats in Florida have the Simms Toray bibs(cheap on sale, lighter) and rubber Grudens(reliable, heavy). If I am in the mountains, I wear a high quality shell, and its mostly stays on. Duck hunting and fishing in the Marsh during the winter, I wear the Sitka. As for sound, I've never really concerned myself with this I guess. If its raining, always figured the rain was pretty loud.
 

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I have struggled with rain gear for years. I will not buy anything Goretex. I just think it is just a high priced premium for not a lot of value. I will pay the same money for a brand with their own 3 layer fabric that will stand behind it instead of just deferring you to Goretex for any warranty. I have an OR Skyward jacket. It has the drop hood, and full side zips for venting. My favorite purchase in years is my Fjallraven Keb Eco-Shell pants. These are fully waterproof all day pants. You can hike and hunt all day in these in comfort. They fit like regular pants. I got these for a little off on sale from a local store who will take care of warranty issues if they arise. No BS to mail in to somebody who will tell you it is your fault.
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Florida Bow Hunter

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I forgot to add.

Gotetex ? It’s actually good but needs maintenance.

Dry cleaning helps keep it waterproof. I also spray mine with waterproof sealant and found if you stand up, you’ll stay dry but sitting down pools the water which will leak thru.


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JNDEER

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There is a reason guys in Alaska who pack hunt use kuiu and sitka. If float hunting they will use HH.

If looking to actually actively hunt in the rain and stay dry.. MT050 will get soaked after the first 1/2" of heavy rain you face or brush up against trees. its heavy.

If you want to have something to stay dry during a rain storm while under a tree.. any $100 packable lightweight gortex stuff will work.
 

Kotaman

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There is a reason guys in Alaska who pack hunt use kuiu and sitka. If float hunting they will use HH.

If looking to actually actively hunt in the rain and stay dry.. MT050 will get soaked after the first 1/2" of heavy rain you face or brush up against trees. its heavy.

If you want to have something to stay dry during a rain storm while under a tree.. any $100 packable lightweight gortex stuff will work.

This...and to to the brushed exterior, it takes forever to dry. I wore MTO 50 years ago on a Newfoundland Hunt in an extremely wet environment. The set never did dry during the hunt. There’s a big difference between Sitka Rain Gear and MTO50 besides the price.
 
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