I tune by bow with the quiver off, since this is how I'm going to shoot long distance. Then I just check to make sure broadheads are hitting good with the quiver on our to 60 yards. I would tune you bow the way you plan to hunt with it.Bill do you find the tune of your bow change at all when taking it off? When I have a full quiver on I have to move my side bar out a good 5-6” from the bow to balance. I would rather run it closer (and can when the quiver is off) , but hate it when my bow doesn’t sit in the middle naturally. I suppose I could add more weight to the back.