Quilt and pad. Suggestions?

[Jjamesdean]

Hey guys looking at EE quilts and wondering which one to get. Also was considering adding a Big Agnes insulated Q Core sleeping pad. I'm using this to archery hunt Colorado elk in September. Any suggestions on what °F quilt to get? and which model? Anyone have anything they want to sell? Thanks everyone!!

 

[jm1607]

I'm going on a late September CO Elk hunt this year. From what I understand it's going to be warm during the day and cold at night. And very unpredictable so be ready for anything.

I sleep cold. I also sleep on my stomach with my leg kicked out so i need my bag and pad a little extra wide.

I got a Thermarest Xtherm Max L and a 10 degree EE quilt regular but X-wide. Have tried them both out around the house and I think I made perfect choices.

I'd rather vent a little more when it's warm than layer up when it's cold.

In general I would get a quilt rated at 10 degrees colder than the coldest temp you might encounter. I think it may get in mid 20's and I sleep cold so I went with 10.

That's my 2 cents

 

[Where's Bruce?]

Watch https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/forum.php, EEs come up for sale periodically.

 

[Jjamesdean]

I'm going on a late September CO Elk hunt this year. From what I understand it's going to be warm during the day and cold at night. And very unpredictable so be ready for anything.

I sleep cold. I also sleep on my stomach with my leg kicked out so i need my bag and pad a little extra wide.

I got a Thermarest Xtherm Max L and a 10 degree EE quilt regular but X-wide. Have tried them both out around the house and I think I made perfect choices.

I'd rather vent a little more when it's warm than layer up when it's cold.

In general I would get a quilt rated at 10 degrees colder than the coldest temp you might encounter. I think it may get in mid 20's and I sleep cold so I went with 10.

That's my 2 cents

Which EE quilt did you get?

 

[Jjamesdean]

Watch hammocktalk, EEs come up for sale periodically.

Thanks bud, I'll check there!

 

[Jay03]

I would stick with the revelation series quilts from EE. The option to open up the foot box is worth it and the weight difference over the enigma is almost a non issue for having the ability to adapt to changing temps with the revelation. As far as which revelation goes.... thats decided by your budget and how much saving ounces is worth to you. There is a BIG jump in price between the 3 revelation quilts. Look at the weight difference and decide how much you want to spend in order to save weight. I have a older EE revelation 20 degree with 750 duck down and it performs down to its rated temp without issue. Oh but it has 2 ounces of extra fill so I guess its more like a 15 or so. Im sure any of the newer ones would be even better.

 

[Jay03]

I just checked and for a 20 degree revelation there is about 1.5 ounces difference between the three levels of down fill. The cost is from 250 to 415. Huge jump in price for 1.5 ounce saving to get 900FP instead of 800FP down. So if it were me buying again I would get the regular revelation with 800FP downtek down. 10 or 20 degree and size is up to you. I have a regular/wide and its perfect with even a little extra room and I am 5'11 175lb. The weight of the current offering is roughly 21 ounces for a 20 degree quilt for $255. The 10 degree is 24 ounces for $275. Downtek is 20 dollars more I believe. Thats what I would do.... because I already did. Haha even though mine is an older model.

 

[Jjamesdean]

Hey Jay, I really appreciate the input! I'm pretty sure I'm going this route. Only issue is if I order one Now, it will be 5 or 6 weeks before its ready. Not sure if that will be here by First of September when I need it...

 

[SHTF]

Hey guys looking at EE quilts and wondering which one to get. Also was considering adding a Big Agnes insulated Q Core sleeping pad. I'm using this to archery hunt Colorado elk in September. Any suggestions on what °F quilt to get? and which model? Anyone have anything they want to sell? Thanks everyone!!

I have the revelation 20 degree and Im warm below freezing. For quilt use Id sway you towards a different pad though. I have the Qcore and its a great pad nothing bad to say about it other than when I tried to use it with a quilt I found it hard to stay on the pad. I have much better luck with the Exped Synmat. Its got a plush microfiber type finish that I find much more appealing for laying directly on with my quilt. This maybe just my preference and others may have a different perspective. Also I found the baffle layout actually keeps me from rolling off the mat as they baffles run long ways. Again could be just my preference. The Qcore is my backup the Exped is my backpacker. Its heavier but more comfortable. Weighing the differences I will take a few more ounces for a good nights rest over saving weight. Just my 2 cents for what its worth.

 

[Jjamesdean]

I have the revelation 20 degree and Im warm below freezing. For quilt use Id sway you towards a different pad though. I have the Qcore and its a great pad nothing bad to say about it other than when I tried to use it with a quilt I found it hard to stay on the pad. I have much better luck with the Exped Synmat. Its got a plush microfiber type finish that I find much more appealing for laying directly on with my quilt. This maybe just my preference and others may have a different perspective. Also I found the baffle layout actually keeps me from rolling off the mat as they baffles run long ways. Again could be just my preference. The Qcore is my backup the Exped is my backpacker. Its heavier but more comfortable. Weighing the differences I will take a few more ounces for a good nights rest over saving weight. Just my 2 cents for what its worth.

Appreciate the input man! I'll definitely take that in serious consideration. Do you use a pillow? Also the quilts come up to your throat right? So you need a hood or something?

 

[orionsbrother]

If you're ordering a quilt, you may want to do it soon and be sure to check lead time.

My experience with EE quilts is that, for me, they are true to temperature rating. I went with the Revelation and like the option of opening the footbox. I would prefer to have a little more quilt rather than a little less. It's pretty easy to vent if it's warm. I went with a 10° too.

I have two quilts. One is treated down. I've been using it for about 15 months, but have not had a situation where that water resistance was put to the test. I can't speak to its actual value.

Good luck on your hunt.

 

[SHTF]

Sea to Summit Aeros Large Pillow wont use anything else. weighs 3 ounces and is comfortable and adjustable.

http://www.seatosummit.com/product/?item=Aeros+Pillow+Premium&o1=0&o2=0&o3=572-40

All of that goes into my katabatic bristlecone bivy. Its a pretty awesome setup. Works great for me. your experience maybe different. Sleep systems are very subjective.

 

[Jjamesdean]

Wow thanks guys. This is valuable info to me! I been thinking I'll go with the 10° bag. For a quilt, do I need a hood or something? I think I seen on EE website they had something about that.

 

[SHTF]

Thats going to be up to you. But be careful mentioning the hood around here. You may get flogged. I never have had a use for one. if its that cold I wear a hooded puffy or throw my Beanie on. never had much of an issue staying warm but as others will mention thats going to be subjective to how cold you sleep and such. For me <---- Buying a hood for one situation i.e. sleeping just seems like a waist. But thats just me.

 

[orionsbrother]

I agree with SHTF about trading some weight penalty for a more plush pad. Restful sleep is critical.

I use one of the dual purpose cuben/micro-fleece stuff sack/pillows. They crinkle, but that doesn't bother me.

 

[Jarrod Renaud]

All great info here. I've got a 20* Revelation and love it for Colorado. For a pad I've got the Sea To Summit Comfort series, amazing and insulated enough to lay it out on the snow, tough as nails, quiet and comfy!

 

[orionsbrother]

Beanie down to around 15°

Open-faced balaclava from around 15° to around -15°

Ski mask Balaclava with nose covering and knit hat or knit balaclava colder than -15° You'll wake up with the tip of your nose frosty otherwise.

 

[Jjamesdean]

I hear ya guys. I think it's pretty decided I'm gonna get the revolution quilt. Not completely sure on temp. Can't decide between 10 and 20. Very torn on pad. Not sure what to get as far as that gos.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

I hear ya guys. I think it's pretty decided I'm gonna get the revolution quilt. Not completely sure on temp. Can't decide between 10 and 20. Very torn on pad. Not sure what to get as far as that gos.

Get the 10*, you can always vent it to cool off but you cannot make a quilt warmer.

 

[Jjamesdean]

Get the 10*, you can always vent it to cool off but you cannot make a quilt warmer.

Thanks for the advice will do.