Q&A Leupold VX-3HD 3.5-10x40mm

[Formidilosus]

There’s an astronomical amount of forgiveness in shooting a whitetail at 50 yards with a high powered rifle. And yet, most of America’s deer camps are filled with stories of “clean misses” and cut shirt tails.

Hmmmm.

That is correct. I am not saying that someone is lying when they say “it’s worked for me” (which is usually followed to using that as evidence that my results are false)…. I’m sure it has. I also have never met someone that says that, that actually tracks their zero and does accept anything being abnormal.

Probably 20 people have argued with me about this subject, a few from this board, that have then went and copied what I do with checking zero, and every one of them has seen similar results as I have the moment they start tracking it.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

To put this in perspective, this is how another scope performed in the drop eval 20 minutes after removing the Leupold-

View attachment 567602

i thought that zeiss failed miserably? or did the new rings fix the problem?

 

[wapitibob]

I had a vx3, it moved over a foot after riding down a BLM road, in a padded case strapped to my quad.

 

[venado mula]

This must be a bunch of NF guys messing around. Zero issues with every Leupold scope.

 

[Formidilosus]

i thought that zeiss failed miserably? or did the new rings fix the problem?

Nightforce rings fixed the problem.

 

[Formidilosus]

This must be a bunch of NF guys messing around. Zero issues with every Leupold scope.

Ok. Can you show your initial zero target with 5-10 rounds directly on your aiming point, and then show the same scope/rifle consecutively afterwards when you checked zero?

 

[N2TRKYS]

I’ve rode mine in trucks, airplanes, and 4-wheelers for years and haven’t had mine move any.

 

[Formidilosus]

I’ve rode mine in trucks, airplanes, and 4-wheelers for years and haven’t had mine move any.

Ok. Similar to what I am doing in these scope eval threads- can you show your initial zero target with 5-10 rounds directly on your aiming point, and then show the same scope/rifle consecutively afterwards when you checked zero over time with no adjustments made between?

 

[N2TRKYS]

Ok. Similar to what I am doing in these scope eval threads- can you show your initial zero target with 5-10 rounds directly on your aiming point, and then show the same scope/rifle consecutively afterwards when you checked zero over time with no adjustments made between?

No, because I don’t save that stuff. I just know that I never have to touch my scopes, unless I change loads.

Heck, I drove from AL to WY this past October for a mule deer hunt. Checked it when I got there, didn’t have to adjust. My rifle made several trips for several miles on my back while on my 4-wheeler before I killed my buck. Shot my buck 3 times off hand at 100 yards. First shot, he was standing still broadside. Next 2 shots he was running. During the skinning process I found 3 holes in him. Each one would have killed him.

Drove home from WY and checked my rifle before our rifle season opened and it was still on.

 

[bmart2622]

What do you mean "you dont have that stuff"? It seems like all you need is your rifle, bullets, target, and camera on your phone

 

[venado mula]

Ok. Can you show your initial zero target with 5-10 rounds directly on your aiming point, and then show the same scope/rifle consecutively afterwards when you checked zero?

I don't understand the scope issues. I buy one online, I mount it properly, I sight it in, I check it before I go hunting, I beat the sh*t out of it, it goes back into hibernation until the next hunt, I recheck it before every hunt like you should, it's always zeroed, never moves off zero. I feel the scope debacle is from operator error.

 

[Formidilosus]

I don't understand the scope issues. I buy one online, I mount it properly, I sight it in, I check it before I go hunting, I beat the sh*t out of it, it goes back into hibernation until the next hunt, I recheck it before every hunt like you should, it's always zeroed, never moves off zero. I feel the scope debacle is from operator error.

As I stated to @ChrisAU. It’s always the same.

That is correct. I am not saying that someone is lying when they say “it’s worked for me” (which is usually followed to using that as evidence that my results are false)…. I’m sure it has. I also have never met someone that says that, that actually tracks their zero and does accept anything being abnormal.

Probably 20 people have argued with me about this subject, a few from this board, that have then went and copied what I do with checking zero, and every one of them has seen similar results as I have the moment they start tracking it.

 

[BjornF16]

No joke, I was on a local forum, and this was the topic of a thread in the optics section there. A whole article about how scopes needed to be clicked/adjusted past zero, and then clicked backwards onto zero. That way everything will settle in. Then, give it few taps with a leatherman or something to make sure everything was good to go.

And most of the replies were in agreement and giving hot tips about how this was the way to go...

Edit: Found it.

2nd Edit: Full disclosure: I was one of these guys. Leupold all the way, because "Warranty." I sent a bunch of friends on the Gold Ring path, because you don't know what you don't know. I'm far from an expert, but I have to say that having gear that works is a relief, and a lot easier on the wallet.

yup...I was taught this...lol

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I don't understand the scope issues. I buy one online, I mount it properly, I sight it in, I check it before I go hunting, I beat the sh*t out of it, it goes back into hibernation until the next hunt, I recheck it before every hunt like you should, it's always zeroed, never moves off zero. I feel the scope debacle is from operator error or retardation.

What scope are you referring to here? VX-3?

 

[Reburn]

Ok. Similar to what I am doing in these scope eval threads- can you show your initial zero target with 5-10 rounds directly on your aiming point, and then show the same scope/rifle consecutively afterwards when you checked zero over time with no adjustments made between?

Has anybody spouting anecdotal evidence ever been able to provide any of this data to show they have one that works?

 

[Formidilosus]

Has anybody spouting anecdotal evidence ever been able to provide any of this data to show they have one that works?

No. I haven’t met anyone. As I wrote earlier, about 20 people have actually tried doing what I do- all of them very quickly realized that they aren’t holding zero. When a rifle shoots 10-20 round groups of sub 1.5 MOA, and those groups are centered on a 1.5” dot, when a round hits out of the dot something happened. People just ignore shots they don’t like as “fliers”.

 

[fwafwow]

Has anybody spouting anecdotal evidence ever been able to provide any of this data to show they have one that works?

Even more broadly, what percentage people have even answered Form’s questions?

 

[Reburn]

Even more broadly, what percentage people have even answered Form’s questions?

Even more broadly, what percentage have the ability and IQ to understand the question and formulate an articulate response without being emotional?

 

[N2TRKYS]

What do you mean "you dont have that stuff"? It seems like all you need is your rifle, bullets, target, and camera on your phone

I don’t keep targets from years ago.

 

[N2TRKYS]

Has anybody spouting anecdotal evidence ever been able to provide any of this data to show they have one that works?

Only evidence that matters to me is dead animals and mine have been producing that without having to rezero.