PVA Cayuga Terminal Performance

[khuber84]

I played around with the 122 cayuga 65mm, it shot very well, just not my idea of terminal performance. Load dev was really simple. 3450 from a 65saum, 3320 from a prc.

I'd call up Mcguire and try some his 93gr copper rose bullets if solids are a necessity.

 

[SouthPaw]

I'd call up Mcguire and try some his 93gr copper rose bullets if solids are a nenecessity.

They are on the way.

 

[Hoghead]

I played around with the 122 cayuga 65mm, it shot very well, just not my idea of terminal performance. Load dev was really simple. 3450 from a 65saum, 3320 from a prc.

I'd call up Mcguire and try some his 93gr copper rose bullets if solids are a necessity.

What was your load for the prc? I'm getting my 25 prc tomorrow. I need some starting point.

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[khuber84]

What was your load for the prc? I'm getting my 25 prc tomorrow. I need some starting point.

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That was 4 years ago, didn't keep the notes as I sold that rifle. I was using rl23, prob 56-57gr. The cayuga is a bore rider design, with a front drive band, then an interruption to a pretty short bearing that goes in the neck. The generate low psi, so faster for bullet weight powders do well. The 65saum was using 60+gr rl26.

 

[Hoghead]

Thanks

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[hibernation]

I played around with the 122 cayuga 65mm, it shot very well, just not my idea of terminal performance.

How so? Inconsistent, or just not enough wound channel?

 

[khuber84]

How so? Inconsistent, or just not enough wound channel?

Yeah I didn't care for the lack of trauma caused internally. Put a few antelope and a large body mature mule deer buck down, they weren't going anywhere, but required knife to incapacitate. 4 yo bull took 4 rounds, was quartered away, the first 3 were a small group entering prob 6 ribs back, exiting through offside armpit. Ice picks through offside lung. The elk stood there like I wasn't even hitting him(630y) I couldn't see splash as they were exiting behind. I actually thought I was missing, 4th shot I was like screw it, went high shoulder and the elk collapsed.

This was from a 65saum running just a tough over 3400fps. I recovered the high shoulder round some how, the nose was broke off, barely expanded over bullet od. Not my desired bullet performance.

 

[chambersandsteele]

I've used these bullets a ton in the last 3-4 years and I must say I've seen nothing but quick kills. A friend of mine put one through an antelope at 800 yards and did not hit bone, bullet went through the heart and exited the animal leaving a 3x hole from the initial 7mm. He was shooting the 151 Cayuga at 2950 FPS out his 280AI. I've killed a barbary with the 151 Cayuga personally, It was not a great shot but it caused a TON of damage after hitting the top of the spine. Shot a mule deer with it and he went down, straight through the front shoulder, tons of damage on that one as well. Another antelope at 700 yards with the 6mm 100 gr. Dropped like a rock through the front shoulder quartering-to slightly. Same friend shot a smaller bull elk at 600 yards with that same 280AI 151 PVA, Crushed him though the front shoulder, couple steps and down he went.

I am not going to claim these are the best bullet on the market and definitely don't have any association with the brand but so far the guys I hunt with have been extremely impressed by these bullets and we have had fantastic results with them. I think that they are different than a barnes and I'm not so sure that they are similar to a hammer in how they kill but they do what they need to do. I will keep using them in the future.