Puffy Pants Versus

I paid $8, plus another $8 for shipping, for the military surplus liner pant. They are quite warm and durable, easily go over my Kuiu Guide pants with boots on. Not quite as warm or packable as the SG, but pretty close. I think they weigh 11 ounces and are very durable. eBay and Amazon sell them.
 
Enlightened Equipment has some lightweight synthetic pants.

Kifaru’s pants offering:

Origin USA
 
There is a 0% chance that you can sit still for 12 hours in -20* with nothing but a base layer and a fleece lined Wrangler pant. Calling BS on that one right now. Up and walking around? Sure.
Definitely BS. Not sure why he feels he needed to respond to a thread that he absolutely zero experience. But there is always- that guy!
 
Alright boys, with the Kuiu sale going on, I can get the Super Down Pro pants for $246. FF Helios is $289. SG Grumman for $249. Which ones yall going with? Seems like Grumman would be the winner.
 
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