Project 2025 and public lands and environment

[PLhunter]

This was discussed before but most claimed it wasn’t a serious document or wouldn’t be played out. Seems how the architects are now in power (Vought, Stephen Miller, Carr etc.) and they are checking off items line by line I think it is a good idea to start strategizing for protecting public land as well as environmental resources with a compromised/severed system of checks and balances. Considering the acquisition of legislatively appropriated funds what can be done to support reseeding, conservation, and mitigating industrial pollution of lands and waters? The threat of implementation seems more real than it did when it was first laughed off here and I think we should be prepared to have those public land and environment fights become reality. There is more evidence supporting it as a threat than dismissing it.

 

[Dos XX]

I don't really pay attention to a lot of news. What document? What specific items are they checking off line by line? Can you post the document or a link to the document?

 

[CJ19]

This topic was closed once already. I can not wait until DOGE starts going through the conservation lobbyist swamp and hopefully i can see some of the nonsense my hard earned money has been funding.

 

[Gila]

I think it would be wise to toss the politics and get into the meat of the situation. The focus should be on the Dept of the Interior. I think Doug Burgum is going to be better than the anti-hunting Deb Haaland was. She was totally ignorant about hunting and believed that predator “restoration” was the way to manage ungulates. She also endorsed grazing buffalo that were just “zoo” animals on BLM land. Those buffalo are not to be consumed because the herds are from APR “parks” for eco-tourism. I am just hoping that the funding goes away for these predator “recovery” projects. Any changes would be welcome because I don’t think the DOI could get any worse than it is now.

 

[huntcookwrite]

I think it would be wise to toss the politics and get into the meat of the situation. The focus should be on the Dept of the Interior. I think Doug Burgum is going to be better than the anti-hunting Deb Haaland was. She was totally ignorant about hunting and believed that predator “restoration” was the way to manage ungulates. She also endorsed grazing buffalo that were just “zoo” animals on BLM land. Those buffalo are not to be consumed because the herds are from APR “parks” for eco-tourism. I am just hoping that the funding goes away for these predator “recovery” projects. Any changes would be welcome because I don’t think the DOI could get any worse than it is now.

I say this only half facetiously, but the DOI could certainly be much worse if the majority of public land is sold off to private entities with no interest in the use of the land beyond resource extraction.

 

[CJ19]

I say this only half facetiously, but the DOI could certainly be much worse if the majority of public land is sold off to private entities with no interest in the use of the land beyond resource extraction.

So, Donald J. Trump wanted to use "a meet in the middle" approach initially. We know this because his first appointment was Ryan Zinke in his first term. A MT guy who stated openly he did not want to sell public land, in a group that had some public land enemies. It was going to be hard for Zinke to be perfect in the eyes of the public land crowd. instead of working with this ally, almost every single public land group worked openly or behind closed door to demonize Zinke and get him removed.

Same can be said for the GAOA. Trump worked to get this legislation passed to permanently fund some of the most important parts of conservation. When the funding landed a little bit short of what was promise, instead of working with it knowing that it was in place permanently and adjustments could be made in the not too distance future, some of the biggest names and groups in conservation went full on attack trying to smear Trump and his administrations commitment to conservation.

So it looks to me that Trump has been the one that wanted to do this with precision and meet in the middle. Conservation lobbyists did not want to do that because it stopped the gravy train. DOGE is now here to find WASTE, FRAUD, and ABUSE. Sorry. The chance was there for the conservation industry to have their seats at the table. The conservation lobby and industrial said no. I laid this out in the first thread about this topic.

 

[Jason Snyder]

She also endorsed grazing buffalo that were just “zoo” animals on BLM land.

And? How is this different from grazing cattle?

 

[rogerdoger]

Elon is following a lot of principles from the economist Milton Friedman, who thought the federal gov’t should sell off all of its government land. You can read the article from Faux News…. I think PLHunter is right about getting our shit together to protect our public lands.

Elon Musk shares Milton Freidman's loathing of government bloat

Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) co-lead Elon Musk is pointing to famed economist Milton Friedman's take on which federal agencies should be scrapped.

www.foxbusiness.com