Private Pilots License?

I think you've got some great input here from some people of real experience.

I grew up in an aviation household. While I can handle the basics, I never got my pilots license. It just wasn't a strong desire. IMO it absolutely must be.

When I was 14 and my brother was 16, my father came to me with a worried look and said ;"your brother wants to learn how to fly." I said, "oh really?" Dad looked me straight in the eyes and said, "your brother will kill himself in an airplane - you on the other hand are a natural." lol, I never forgot that.

My father got his first flying lesson at age 14 in 1943 from his cousin Bernard Pietenpol in a Pietnpol Aircamper. He soloed in an Aeronca Champ. After college, he went on to get USAF training for fighters (Korea), then came back to Montana where he taught flying, and was a pilot for hire. He flew hunters into the backcountry (mostly the Bob), delivered mail and groceries in the winter to isolated ranches, etc., etc. He was building hours. Then he got hired by a major airline and retired 33 year later left seat 747 at age 60 with 23,000 hrs.

He's 97 now, and sharp as a tack. His favorite years flying were here in Montana. As he says, "real airplanes have propellers and shit sticking out all over."

Having watched my dad over 65 years, I can say flying wasn't a casual thing to him. He did it because he had a total love and passion for all things flying. Staying safe and proficient isn't anything casual. It takes time, money, real desire and comittment. He lost dozens of friends over the years to aviation accidents. When my dad asked a good friend of his who was retiring at his FAA mandatory 60 years of age if he would continue to fly, the guy replied; "Heck no. These dad-gum airplanes will kill you!"

Truer words were never spoken.
 
I think you've got some great input here from some people of real experience.

I grew up in an aviation household. While I can handle the basics, I never got my pilots license. It just wasn't a strong desire. IMO it absolutely must be.

When I was 14 and my brother was 16, my father came to me with a worried look and said ;"your brother wants to learn how to fly." I said, "oh really?" Dad looked me straight in the eyes and said, "your brother will kill himself in an airplane - you on the other hand are a natural." lol, I never forgot that.

My father got his first flying lesson at age 14 in 1943 from his cousin Bernard Pietenpol in a Pietnpol Aircamper. He soloed in an Aeronca Champ. After college, he went on to get USAF training for fighters (Korea), then came back to Montana where he taught flying, and was a pilot for hire. He flew hunters into the backcountry (mostly the Bob), delivered mail and groceries in the winter to isolated ranches, etc., etc. He was building hours. Then he got hired by a major airline and retired 33 year later left seat 747 at age 60 with 23,000 hrs.

He's 97 now, and sharp as a tack. His favorite years flying were here in Montana. As he says, "real airplanes have propellers and shit sticking out all over."

Having watched my dad over 65 years, I can say flying wasn't a casual thing to him. He did it because he had a total love and passion for all things flying. Staying safe and proficient isn't anything casual. It takes time, money, real desire and comittment. He lost dozens of friends over the years to aviation accidents. When my dad asked a good friend of his who was retiring at his FAA mandatory 60 years of age if he would continue to fly, the guy replied; "Heck no. These dad-gum airplanes will kill you!"

Truer words were never spoken.
Boy I'd love to sit down and talk airplanes with your old man.
 
Good call. 40 hours flight time and breaks down to 20 with instructor, 10 solo, 3 cross country, 3 night, 3 instrument


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Very, very, very few people are capable of finishing their PPL in 40 hours. Time available, scheduling, weather, gaps between training for whatever reason just don't allow it. Plan for 50-70.

I used to have a Cherokee 6-300. Amazing plane for a family. Like a suburban. That said, planes need missions. They are tools. Going tool around in the morning in the air just sightseeing gets old IMHO. And as said above, lower 48 fly-in hunting is just not a thing realistically. The few strips that work for that get USED and just might have more traffic than the hike in trailheads in those areas.

I made my plane work because I twisting things and made it useful for some work trips a couple of times a quarter and then added family trips on top. When my kids got older and we started wanted to use the RV more and bring more stuff for our family trips the plane got sold.

That said, we did some super cool trips while I had it. This was a trip from South Louisiana to Montana. Photo taken in West Yellowstone.

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