Pre season scouting

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So I've decided on a new area to hunt here In oregon for 2014. It's a big piece of wilderness that holds elk for sure. I am going to start with maps and google earth to get an idea of where to start. My question is, when I get up there in the spring, what should I look for? Elk or past rutting activity or both? I know there are big ridges above tree line to spot from so that will help. Is there anything else I should be looking for to help me out come September?
 
Matt,

I'm not sure which wilderness are you mentioning but I have been hunting one of them for about five years now.

When I first started I would hike the ridges, stay up high and glass. I never saw much for though. After a couple years invested in various areas in this wilderness I ran across a local about 7 miles in. I talked to him quite a while and learned a lot. He told me "you're not going to find elk up high this time of year, you've got to hunt the timbered draws and creeks with water." The next year I relocated to another drainage and eventually located elk. Guess where I found them, you're right, in the creek bottoms with water. Most of these areas I've found you wont be able to do a whole lot of glassing at much distance, but if they're talking you'll find them. They do move up a ways when they bed but usually they're still in the same basic drainage.

When I scout in the early summer I do find them up high in the open meadows and grassy hillsides up high during the mornings and just before dark. Seems like when the season hits the elk change their areas. This does give you a feel for what is in the area though.

When scouting I have learned to not go in until well after the 4th of July. Sometimes there are some pretty good snow drifts you'll have to negotiate. Depends on the year and snow levels of course.

Fred Barsted has a book out about hiking the trails in some of these wilderness areas. I have found it very useful to locate trails etc which will help you navigate through the area. It is not a book about hunting but he does mention areas where he sees wildlife.

I am not an expert elk hunter so take this for what it's worth. Just my experience in the wilderness area I hunt.

Have fun!
 
Thanks TJ. We are looking at the strawberries. Big area and lots of deer and elk. I hear the edges get hunted pretty hard but we plan on a week to 10 days in the middle of it. My pre season trips will be to get a feel for the area, learn the trails a bit and get a feel for the animals in there.
 
Look for the longer ridges and canyons that have the most "relief" :)
Places where the herd can migrate from like 8000' to 5500' easily, and where there is a creek on both sides of the ridge, seem to always hold Elk here.
 
First I look for good elk country. Mixes of meadows, heavy dark timbered ridges with water, it all has to be off trail though. Forest service trails always seem to go through picture perfect elk meadows, and you might see elk in the summer there, but ive never seen an elk in them during season.
From there I look for elk sign. Old or fresh. I've found elk rut in the same place year after year.
This will all give you a good idea of there general area and how they use it. I will say the best scouting you can do is to actually hunt it. The elk you see in August a lot of times will be in a different area come the rut. It just takes time learning there habits and moving around until you find them.
 
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