POS Leuplold…

[NevadaMike]

They seem to be great if you don’t travel, dial the turrets, or use the rifle it’s on

Does this count as traveling or dialing?

 

[dirtytough]

Does this count as traveling or dialing?

I don’t see 13 other rifles piled on top in the back seat with a bunch of other crap on it. Quit babying it and really test it

 

[NevadaMike]

I don’t see 13 other rifles piled on top in the back seat with a bunch of other crap on it. Quit babying it and really test it

Well all the rifles are standing up inside my bathroom door in the boat picture. They are in there somewhere under all the crap.

 

[Luked]

I have 3 im getting ready to post for sale also and move to Nightforce and Maven

 

[dirtytough]

Well all the rifles are standing up inside my bathroom door in the boat picture. They are in there somewhere under all the crap.

Ok maybe that counts.

 

[Macintosh]

Seems like the leupy guys feel targeted by the people that have had problems with them. I know of at least 1 that has held zero, so I know its possible. In order to show the naysayers, Id love see some leupold scopes zero tracked over time in the zero thread to show that they hold zero. Otherwise Im afraid folks might just pass it off as frequent re-zeroing or not tracking a zero and basing success off of “minute of deer” results.

Scope Zero Check Thread

I got to thinking that a thread for posting zero checks would be awesome. It could end up being a great collection of data/information. I'm thinking everyone posts a target whenever they check zero along with notes about shooting conditions and what the rifle has been through since the last...

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[JGRaider]

It's the same ol' circle jerk every time "Leupold" comes up. The haters say the successful L users don't know what they're doing, got lucky, it's a matter of time, etc. Fact is some people have trouble with them, many use them successfully.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Leupolds are like women, I hear of a few good ones out there, but most of them have some kind of issue, broken, junk.

Old guys have had there’s for years and don’t wanna switch.

 

[NevadaMike]

Seems like the leupy guys feel targeted by the people that have had problems with them. I know of at least 1 that has held zero, so I know its possible. In order to show the naysayers, Id love see some leupold scopes zero tracked over time in the zero thread to show that they hold zero. Otherwise Im afraid folks might just pass it off as frequent re-zeroing or not tracking a zero and basing success off of “minute of deer” results.

Scope Zero Check Thread

I got to thinking that a thread for posting zero checks would be awesome. It could end up being a great collection of data/information. I'm thinking everyone posts a target whenever they check zero along with notes about shooting conditions and what the rifle has been through since the last...

rokslide.com

I replied not because I am a Leupold guy but rather this form has people selling off stuff that has served them well. I currently run 2 of the new Mavens based on info here on the reticle, I have a Nightforce on my 50 and a Zeiss V6. I don’t know the numbers but no doubt Leupold sells some multiple of other brands so there are more of them out there. A little information can be dangerous. On one of these threads a guy was selling his Leupold because his “PRS” buddies failed to hold zero by .3 and .4. What he did not get is right in his argument his PRS buddy was checking in high winds. A friend that was using one of my Alaska rifles last month with a VX5 had a success hunt and was sold on them. He told me he was going to get one because his scope at home had “failed.” I said slow down and check a few things. When he got back to Texas he sent a video of him able to wobble his rail with very little force. I just think shear numbers and our general lack of understanding sometimes leads us to improper conclusions.

 

[Axlrod]

It's the same ol' circle jerk every time "Leupold" comes up. The haters say the successful L users don't know what they're doing, got lucky, it's a matter of time, etc. Fact is some people have trouble with them, many use them successfully.

And the same old JGR...
I don't know if the OP knows what he's doing with scopes or not, but he doesn't poses a rudimentary handle on english!

Dang. This got more traction than I thought it would.

i’m pleased with this particular scope. Granite were only half a year through but the prior three have all been great (and continue to be) for past 30 years

 

[Kyguy]

From what I've been able to discern on this forum, along with others,, is that around 2010 or so is when things started to get too janky with Leupold. I want to love them, I truly do, they're an American company, they win the eye relief game, and I think the best looking scopes as well. I've had lots of issues with them, but I'll also qualify that buy saying I've only bought 4 of them brand new, the other 20 something (might be 30 something by now, I've stopped keeping track) I've had were all used or already on rifles that I bought. Out of those 4 new ones, two of them came out of the box and went straight back to Leupold, a VX3HD that wouldn't track and VX5HD with a diopter that wouldn't adjust. Out of the used ones, my last stat was that 58% of them had to sent in for warranty work. I've stopped keeping track of that too. I've bought 14 used scopes this year, of various manufacturers, and EVERY one of them had to be sent in for warranty work. So I don't know that it's a scope issue (all brands) as much as it's an issue of people phucking them up and selling them instead of sending in for warranty.

 

[Schmo]

Yeah, the haters condemn them, but they love Tikka's. LOL. Go figure. I've been killing shit from Pa to Africa with Leupold scopes for 45 years. I have at least 2 dozen of them and never had to send one back yet. They somehow survived 300RUM, 458Lott, 470NE and 505Gibbs rifles and some heavy recoiling handguns. Been travelled on plenty of rough roads too. Only thing I didn't do yet was throw any rifles down a rockslide or off a cliff. Seem's to be common here. Maybe that's my problem. Haters, followers, .....whatever. We got plenty of them here.

I guess my question is why are you still hanging around if we’re all morons?

I replied not because I am a Leupold guy but rather this form has people selling off stuff that has served them well.

We haven’t been making anyone sell anything. Enough guys simply had issues when they shouldn’t have. Told their experiences, and that when they switched, issues went away. That’s not bad information.

 

[ElPollo]

It's the same ol' circle jerk every time "Leupold" comes up. The haters say the successful L users don't know what they're doing, got lucky, it's a matter of time, etc. Fact is some people have trouble with them, many use them successfully.

I find it interesting that I don’t hear similar arguments from Vortex scope owners. They seem to accept the potential for zero loss due to the “great warranty”. Lots of Leupold owners seem to disregard any potential for zero loss and infer there is a conspiracy against Leupold. Seems a hard argument to make. My take is that even the models that pass the Rokslide drop tests have some potential to fail, but the probability for failure is significantly lower than for models that have not passed.

 

[JGRaider]

I find it interesting that I don’t hear similar arguments from Vortex scope owners. They seem to accept the potential for zero loss due to the “great warranty”. Lots of Leupold owners seem to disregard any potential for zero loss and infer there is a conspiracy against Leupold. Seems a hard argument to make. My take is that even the models that pass the Rokslide drop tests have some potential to fail, but the probability for failure is significantly lower than for models that have not passed.

We can agree to disagree on this one.

 

[ElPollo]

We can agree to disagree on this one.

Don’t we always?

 

[JGRaider]

Don’t we always?

On this particular subject for sure.

 

[ElPollo]

On this particular subject for sure.

Thanks for giving me some credit.

 

[2531usmc]

I find it interesting that I don’t hear similar arguments from Vortex scope owners. They seem to accept the potential for zero loss due to the “great warranty”. Lots of Leupold owners seem to disregard any potential for zero loss and infer there is a conspiracy against Leupold. Seems a hard argument to make. My take is that even the models that pass the Rokslide drop tests have some potential to fail, but the probability for failure is significantly lower than for models that have not passed.

True, with the full understanding that the Rokslide “drop test” is not really a test. It’s random guys dropping random rifles, in a random fashion, getting random results and then proclaiming that “it passed” or “it failed and I have to buy a new scope”

 

[JGRaider]

Thanks for giving me some credit.

I've read about your satisfaction with the AB Raptor 8. I'd buy one tomorrow if I could find one.

 

[Ucsdryder]

I find it interesting that I don’t hear similar arguments from Vortex scope owners. They seem to accept the potential for zero loss due to the “great warranty”. Lots of Leupold owners seem to disregard any potential for zero loss and infer there is a conspiracy against Leupold. Seems a hard argument to make. My take is that even the models that pass the Rokslide drop tests have some potential to fail, but the probability for failure is significantly lower than for models that have not passed.

I’ve had an LHT for 4 years now. It’s killed close to 40 animals from 17 yards to 957 yards, but the local RS expert has convinced everyone it’s junk. At this point I just keep killing shit with it, along with my family and friends.

Oh, still holding a zero from 2021 when it was sighted in new. I think I just don’t hunt hard enough to see a failure…

It is frustrating sometimes, but I’m pretty much over arguing with the “expert”, most of the time.